Turnchat CoL

[gert-janl]

blackheart,
What about this?

CoL G.5 - Turnchat Schedule
A.  At least 4 days between Turnchats is required. The time, however, of
    the TC does not have to be exactly 96 hours from the previous Turnchat.
    Some latitude will be given (+/- 5 hours). This latitude is up to the
    discretion of the DP. 
B.  There must be played at least one full Turnchat every week; one full
    turnchat usually constitutes of at least 10 turns, but this does not have
    to be fully played as the DP can stop the turnchat early as the need 
    arises.
C.  If required, the DP can decide to hold more turnchats, limited to one turn, 
    as needed to decide in matters of trade or any other one turn actions. 
    During these one turn TCs no more than one turn can be played, but no 
    turns (effectively pressing the turn button) are needed to be played, just 
    the instructions are required to be carried out as dictated by the 
    ministers and governors.

I amended your proposal into a law format. I also enlarge the time between turnchats to 4 days. This because the 'latitude' of your proposal allows the DP to play a Turnchat every 3 days anyway. It's also more convenient for the DP when the Turnchat can organised on regular times. If you add a decimal the DP might have to organise Turnchats sometimes in the morning, and later in the evening again.
If you, and/or other people think that 3.5 is still better, we can of course always change it back.

 

[blackheart]

Thank you for converting it to law format GJ. I really have no opinion on whether it be 4 or 3.5 days, I would just like to have a variance of times so citizens living in the many different timezones can participate if they choose too.

 

[MOTH]

I don't like the specifics or the restrictions placed here. The current system allows for flexibility without having to figure out some exact schedule. I like when I know that on Wed nights and Sun afternoons (or whatever normal schedule a future pres sets). I can plan far in advance this way.

The constitution does state that every elected official is subject to the WOTP. So, if someone doesn't like the president's schedule then they can start discussion and polling on the matter. If the president then follows the WOTP we can have a gap between TC's to be greater or less than they are now when the circumstances require it.

 

[classical_hero]

Thank you for converting it to law format GJ. I really have no opinion on whether it be 4 or 3.5 days, I would just like to have a variance of times so citizens living in the many different timezones can participate if they choose too.

I prefer 3 1/2 days between each TC. That would give people like me to attend TC's when it is night here and morning in America.

 

[gert-janl]

That would give people like me to attend TC's when it is night here and morning in America.

I am afraid that will still not be possible, untill some of the people from Down Under becomes DP. A DP can't plan a TC at a convenient time for everyone. It's as easy as that.

The constitution does state that every elected official is subject to the WOTP. So, if someone doesn't like the president's schedule then they can start discussion and polling on the matter. If the president then follows the WOTP we can have a gap between TC's to be greater or less than they are now when the circumstances require it.

Basically you have a point here. But we are actually just following the route you point out here. There is someone who doesn't like the schedule of the president. He decided to poll the citizenry about it, and it seems that more people share his opinion. Therefore he now walks the legal path to ensure that there will be more time between turnchats.
I agree that it's also convenient if you know in advance when the turnchat will be held. Maybe we could agree to a 3 times in 2 weeks, so that you also know the days in advance?

 

[Ginger_Ale]

I don't know if this is a step in the right direction - each President has his/her right to chose when turnchats are, when, etc. I don't think that imposing a law on them will work...

Also; this is the way that this demogame has been working! You are making a law that is pretty much used, although not written;

Sunday afternoon to Wednesday night: 3 days, 6 hours
Wednesday night to Sunday afternoon: 3 days, 18 hours

I think that's enough... 1,5 days of debates/discussion, 1,5 days of polling..

 

[Black_Hole]

I second the proposal! Send it to the polls!!!

 

[donsig]

This one is nice and simple:

Turn chats are not required.

 

[Black_Hole]

This one is nice and simple:

Turn chats are not required.

ooo another idea, lets give the minster of science dictatorship
hmm i wonder who the current minister of science is..... *looks around*

 

[donsig]

ooo another idea, lets give the minster of science dictatorship
hmm i wonder who the current minister of science is..... *looks around*

Excuse me. My proposal is a serious one and not made in jest.

 

[Strider]

This one is nice and simple:

Turn chats are not required.

If turnchats are not required, then we give the DP almost complete control. Very few people read over the chat log, but I'm sure many people will go to the turnchat. Why? It's just more interesting. If we do not require turnchats then the DP will beable to get away with a great many things, that a turnchat would stop.

Turnchats also helps the DP in making decisions based on the WOTP (notice I said based on).

 

[Ashburnham]

Well, regardless of whether they're required or not, I give my approval to the proposal. I like the idea of codifying the regularity of Turnchats, as it will keep any overzealous presidents from playing whenever they feel like it.

 

[ravensfire]

If turnchats are not required, then we give the DP almost complete control. Very few people read over the chat log, but I'm sure many people will go to the turnchat. Why? It's just more interesting. If we do not require turnchats then the DP will beable to get away with a great many things, that a turnchat would stop.

Turnchats also helps the DP in making decisions based on the WOTP (notice I said based on).

Ahh, so turn chats avoid problems like the DP ignoring instructions and the WOTP. That's a good one!

-- Ravensfire

 

[Black_Hole]

Excuse me. My proposal is a serious one and not made in jest.

sorry just didnt seem very viable, but after reading your other post I understand now, sorry

 

[Black_Hole]

If turnchats are not required, then we give the DP almost complete control. Very few people read over the chat log, but I'm sure many people will go to the turnchat. Why? It's just more interesting. If we do not require turnchats then the DP will beable to get away with a great many things, that a turnchat would stop.

Turnchats also helps the DP in making decisions based on the WOTP (notice I said based on).

but if we play this way we can expand the court to 5 members, as im sure CCs will be flying

 

[blackheart]

Yay! Now on to presenting this to the judiciary then for a poll.

 

[Strider]

Ahh, so turn chats avoid problems like the DP ignoring instructions and the WOTP. That's a good one!

-- Ravensfire

What do no turnchats do? Nothing, except maybe allow the DP to play the save on there own time, and also give them some peace.

 

[MOTH]

I still have a problem with the lack of flexibility that this introduces. As written I will be voting against this as I don't think this is to restrictive to make this part of the Code of Laws.

 

[blackheart]

I still have a problem with the lack of flexibility that this introduces. As written I will be voting against this as I don't think this is to restrictive to make this part of the Code of Laws.

How would you word it then?

 

[Strider]

It's to inflexible, forces the DP to do something at exactly this time.

The DP is the one who is playing the save, let them decide when to do it, for it fits in with there schedule. To do otherwise is pretty much telling them that they have to give up there whole life for this game.