vanilla vs play the world vs conquests

[Mongol]

so what's the deal with those 2 expansions?
how come there is a separate forum for conquests but none for play the world?
or conquests is the last expansion and it includes play the world?
if is install one of these, or both, expansions, will i still be able to play vanilla vesrsion?

 

[Zydiax]

how come there is a separate forum for conquests but none for play the world?

I think that's because Conquests includes a lot of rule changes and other major updates. PTW just adds more civilizations and units, and of course the ability to play online.

if is install one of these, or both, expansions, will i still be able to play vanilla vesrsion?

Yes.

 

[Doc Tsiolkovski]

Conquests and Vanilla/PtW play pretty different, while PtW is basically Vanilla with some more Civs. Also, in C3C there are the Conquests, so a seperate forum makes sense.
For example, Leaders and corruption (including the Forbidden Palace) work completely different in C3C.

C3C includes PtW. If you install C3C, you can start a game in either Vanilla, PtW or C3C (but I predict you won't start anything but C3C after trying it ).

 

[Rohili]

PtW was rather a disappointment, actually. So the team went back and made C3C, which IMO is the real worthy expansion to civ 3. They also made the correct decision to include PtW in C3C, mainly because whatever PtW had, C3C had even better.

 

[classical_hero]

is the only part of the franchise I still play. The changes that they made make the game much mire enjoyable.

 

[Puppeteer]

how come there is a separate forum for conquests but none for play the world?

The game differences--apart from multiplayer, which BTW has its own forum--from CivIII to PTW can mostly be handled by free modpacks as GOTM demonstrated. Conquests has many coding changes that can't be effected through user modding. The core game in CivIII/PTW is essentially the same and can be disucssed without differentiating on most points.

or conquests is the last expansion and it includes play the world?
if is install one of these, or both, expansions, will i still be able to play vanilla vesrsion?

Conquests includes PTW...wish I had found that out a week sooner. However at least the original Conquests release left out some of the "extra" mod graphics that were on the PTW CD....WWII units and maybe dinosaurs I think. But you could play the unmodded PTW with only the Conquests expansion. For either expansion you have to have the original CivIII, and you can play any version after installing expansions. CivIII Gold includes the original and I think the PTW expansion where CivIII Complete includes everything, so you don't have to have the original CivIII sepearately to install those.

 

[rschissler]

I only have vanilla CivIII so that's what I play. Is Conquests really that much better? I mean, with Civ4 just a couple months away (according to some sources) is it worth spending the money on Conquests now?

 

[vmxa]

That is not for us to save for you. I would say it is worth it to me as CivIII is way toeasy compared to C3C. Now if you can find it for say 15 US or less would you think it worth it?

Anyway I would hate have missed out on play PTW and C3C.

 

[Padma]

I think the real reason that Civ3-Conquests has its own forum is because Atari asked TF to do it.



They really did.

 

[Afterburner]

I only have vanilla CivIII so that's what I play. Is Conquests really that much better?

I think so. Improved interface. Improved command sets. More units. More stuff for Workers to do. More robust tech tree design. New terrain types. New bonus resource types. Almost (but not quite) double the amount of playable Civs. Two new civ traits (Agricultural and Seafaring). Smarter AI. New ways to win (and lose). More difficulty levels.

Conquests is basically Civ3.5. It vastly improves on the original.

 

[Puppeteer]

I only have vanilla CivIII so that's what I play. Is Conquests really that much better? I mean, with Civ4 just a couple months away (according to some sources) is it worth spending the money on Conquests now?

My personal takes on the CivIII expansions: With PTW I like the additions of the Medieval Infantry, the Radar Tower and more civs; a curious fact I always remember is that in PTW a city on a hill can channel irrigation across the hill but in original CivIII it can't. In Conquests I like knowing that RCP is fixed, the addition of the Trebuchet, that the map-trading and contact trading put off, the new civ traits and the improved battle strategies of the AI.

As var as Conquests vs. Civ 4, I want Civ 4 but I may do as I did with CivIII and wait until the price drops from $60 down to $30...probably several months to a year or two. (Or I may not...at that time I wasn't much of a Civ Fan and now I am.) Civ 4 will be new, and if you're into these boards it may be fun to be part of the learning experience and early modding experience. If you just like to play the mechanics and idiosyncracies of Conquests are well mapped out, and there are many mature play modifications available. It's really up to your budget and your game preferences.

I think the real reason that Civ3-Conquests has its own forum is because Atari asked TF to do it.

I didn't know that, but I doubt that had anything to do with it.

 

[Mongol]

C3C includes PtW. If you install C3C, you can start a game in either Vanilla, PtW or C3C (but I predict you won't start anything but C3C after trying it ).

that's good to know, doc

 

[777]

PtW and Coquest, what a rip! I mean all these things what came with C3C and PtW would have been solved with patches. It was ridigilous how vanilla lacked some basic things what was in the Civ2 and later added to Civ3 with C3C or PtW.

 

[Hygro]

I think the real reason that Civ3-Conquests has its own forum is because Atari asked TF to do it.



They really did.

Didn't people ask for it as it was?

 

[vmxa]

I know on poly it was the members that asked for a conquest forum. Recently it was folded back into the general civ3 forum. When C3C started, it needed its own as things were talked about that really did not pertain to PTW and C3.

It just made more sense. Now most of the players are using C3C, so that is not an issue. I doubt that Soren asked for it.

 

[Doc Tsiolkovski]

Soren would have been Firaxis anyway, not ATARI .