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Rabbit, White
Guest
Can't find this info anywhere. Any ideas? Also, how come machine gunners are mechanized?
Shqype
Shqyptar
There's two thoeries I have: It either has to do with movement, or combat. I'm leaning towards movement, however. I'm not sure what they do, though.
Kael
Deity
As far as I can tell it doesn't do anything.
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Rabbit, White
Guest
Guess it'll remain a mystery till the SDK comes out, and maybe even then. 
I have no idea as to what it does, but it could be used to define a double-unit type. For example a mechanized unit fighting infantry would be considered an armored unit, while a mechanized unit fighting tanks would be considered an infantry (gunpowder) unit. Just a thought, for modders.
Kael
Deity
Padmewan said:
It is read by CvCoreGameDLL and passed to python through the isMechUnit() function. It doesn't look like the vanilla game ever uses the attribute for anything either in the CvCore or in python.
Shqype
Shqyptar
Probably an element that didn't make the final cut.
What this means for modders is a free boolean tag to use for whatever purpose they want through python, without using the SDK to modify schemas.
What this means for modders is a free boolean tag to use for whatever purpose they want through python, without using the SDK to modify schemas.
Shqype
Shqyptar
You could definitely use something like this for your SMAC mod: <bMechanized> can actually be a pseudonym for <bIsVirulentDestructiveUnit> or something like thatPadmewan said:That's the answer I was looking for
The Great Apple
Big Cheese
I'm using it the 40k mod for... mechanised unitsShqype said:You could definitely use something like this for your SMAC mod: <bMechanized> can actually be a pseudonym for <bIsVirulentDestructiveUnit> or something like that
The ideal would be a promotion that was useful against bMechanized. I believe for now bonuses are vs. specific units or vs. unit classes. Since bMechanized is not exposed to XML I guess this would need SDK work. Great Apple, how are you using bMechanized? Did you mod Python to handle it, and is that transparent to the user (which is one reason I like to stick to XML when possible)?
The Great Apple
Big Cheese
Yeah I used it in python. Python is only really transparent if you know python. If you don't then it's semi-transparent (translucent...).Padmewan said:
I meant, in terms of "transparency," that tooltips and all that would automatically appear, e.g. a custom promotion that gives you +25% versus "mechanical." I suspect the answer to all of this would be "no" and that the tooltips would need to be customized in Python as well. And also such a bonus be made understandable to the AI.
The Great Apple
Big Cheese
Nope, I think there is a way you can change tooltips using python - I think 12monkeys did it for his plot list enhancements. The AI wouldn't understand it though without SDK work.
Shqype
Shqyptar
The AI doesn't need to understand tooltips ...
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Rabbit, White
Guest
Wait, what now?! I thought that's how the AI knows how to do stuffShqype said:
On a serious note, I think what TGA meant was that even if you implement this in python there's still a way to create tooltips for it but the AI will not really understand it. I.e. the reason not to implement this in python has nothing to do with tooltips and/or "transparency" for user but rather with making the AI use it properly.
Shqype
Shqyptar
Oops, sorry for misunderstanding.Agent 009
Civ 4 Addict
Shqype said:
Rabbit said:Wait, what now?! I thought that's how the AI knows how to do stuff
lmao
You guys are hilarious.As for the BMechanized thing... I thought it was just to determine whether or not that unit was mechanical. Like the Mechanized Infantry. Are there not any attack bonuses against mechs and such? Maybe I am wrong as I really haven't looked into it. It's just a thought.
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