What is your favorite new BtS Civ?

[Horizons]

Yes, but did you pay attention to what I said? That on many maps naval units will be useless - so it is only fair that a naval UU is more powerful, relatively, than a land UU.

True, and I just read on IGN that there is a new ship-of-the-line which is stronger than a frigate but also slower. So there is indeed a counter for the Dutch galleon after all. I'm happy

 

[diablodelmar]

The Dutch look sufficiently droolworthy to leave my keyboard damaged from the moisture. All the others look juicy too. I LOVE THIS EXPANSION!!!!!! I LOVE THIS GAME!!!! I LOVE YOU FIRAXIS!!!!

 

[sneaky]

I am very happy with the Dutch. Not only are they strong, they are also very flavorful and completely fit their history. A lot of the new civs seems very well designed in this way. The HRE and the Portuguese civs to name a few.

Personal favorites when it comes to strength: The Dutch, Portuguese, Mayas and the HRE.
But Babylonia, Byzantine and Ethiopian also seem quite strong.

 

[Marla_Singer]

Except that the Holy Roman Empire is basically medieval Germany. It's rather pointless to make an artificial divide between the HRE and modern Germany... that's not how it's felt by Germans. And Charlemagne as its leader is really the weakest choice ever. Anyway, considering that the french name of the HRE is "Saint Empire Romain Germanique" (aka German Holy Roman Empire), I'm curious to know how this civilization will be translated. From a French perspective, having Charlemagne as leader sounds then totally odd (Charlemagne was mainly based in today's France and mostly conqueered what is today's Germany). In spanish, the problem is the same considering the HRE is also called "Sacro Imperio Romano Germánico".

 

[Marla_Singer]

My favourite news civs up there are probably Ethiopia, the Mayas and the Khmers. The result is simply that those are very influent and interesting civilizations which had actually never been in the game earlier. Somehow, putting them finally in Civ4 restores some kind of justice.

 

[SkippyT]

I'm really happy Ethiopia wasn't neglected. So I voted for them.
Khmer were a close runner-up.

 

[Cato the Elder]

I voted Ethiopian. And I'd be lying if I didn't mention that Zara Yaqob looks pretty bloody awesome in that pic on the IGN interview didn't influence that choice.

 

[Marla_Singer]

I guess the poll wold be more interesting if it would be multi-choice... as picking those we're glad are in and can't wait to play with. As only few are glad of the addition of only one civilization. I guess this would make a lot more sense.

But anyway, there has already been two similar poll. I won't add a third one.

 

[zbyszke]

Byzantines! They deserve a place among other civs.

 

[Martinus]

My favourite news civs up there are probably Ethiopia, the Mayas and the Khmers. The result is simply that those are very influent and interesting civilizations which had actually never been in the game earlier. Somehow, putting them finally in Civ4 restores some kind of justice.

I'm pretty sure Mayas were in Civ3. Agreed on Khmers and Ethiopians, though.

 

[ChrTh]

It's funny how Mayans have the second most votes, but are barely mentioned in the thread.

 

[NYHunter]

Well I will mention Mayans.

I think ball courts are kind of a cool UB.

 

[NYHunter]

Ignore this post.

 

[Phoenix1595]

Poor Gilgamesh! Hardly any interest! Guess he is not that immortal after all (re: Epic of Gilgamesh).

 

[Pangur Bán]

The Native Americans, the Maya and the Khmer. Native Americans have got the most useful UU for me, and the best traits, and I don't have too much of a problem lumping different tribes together (although it would be better if the added more civs and we got two or three different ones). Wish Israel and the Hittites were there; the Hittites were one of my favorites from Civ 3. Disappointed Polynesia didn't make it. But anyways ... Holy Roman Empire sucks so bad; prolly won't get it for that reason, unless there is an inbuilt mechanism to prevent it being in the same game as the other Germany civ.

 

[Phoenix1595]

It's funny how Mayans have the second most votes, but are barely mentioned in the thread.

I'm surprised about the Mayans. From their stats, they seem decent, but not a civ I'd find particularly jaw-dropping for most people. Maybe there are a few Apocalypto fans out there?

Also shocked that my vote-HRE- garnered so many votes. I thought after all the hate mail, HRE would go into the witness protection program. I think people realized the power of the rauthaus UB, and how large an empire it can amass (much like it's RW counterpart: c'mon, a civ that includes both Germans and French getting along together... you'd need a super courthouse for that). Of course, I'm pretty happy with 99% of the civ choices.

 

[Martinus]

The Native Americans, the Maya and the Khmer. Native Americans have got the most useful UU for me, and the best traits, and I don't have too much of a problem lumping different tribes together (although it would be better if the added more civs and we got two or three different ones). Wish Israel and the Hittites were there; the Hittites were one of my favorites from Civ 3. Disappointed Polynesia didn't make it. But anyways ... Holy Roman Empire sucks so bad; prolly won't get it for that reason, unless there is an inbuilt mechanism to prevent it being in the same game as the other Germany civ.

I think you should start a thread to complain against inclusion of HRE. Let your voice be heard!

 

[GoodSarmatian]

Hmm...I was looking forward to play a Cha/Phi or Phi/Imp leader, but these leaders are for old civs and I'll want to try a new one. And I don'zt want to start with a leader with a pre-warlords combo like Hammurabi or Wiliam.
I guess I will play my first game either as Justinian or Charlemagne.
Both have a very good UB and UU and start with Mysticism, so I can probably found Buddhism and build Shwedagon Paya in my first game.

 

[Monty Python Ni]

The Native Americans, because I am part Cherokee, and they've never been represented before, but now they're included, even if it is a broad category. I've also always respected Sitting Bull, and it will be nice to finally play an American Indian civilization with their UU being completely terrible...

 

[GoodSarmatian]

I've also always respected Sitting Bull, and it will be nice to finally play an American Indian civilization with their UU being completely terrible...

Terrible ?
They require no metal and can take down praetorians .