What will "beating the game" involve for you?

[Gori the Grey]

I came up with the following idea while playing Civ V, but too late to implement it.

I'm going to play up through the difficulty levels, one game at each.

As I start each level, I get to roll two starts--everything random except world size and speed, those both at normal--and choose between those two which one I'd prefer to play. (This keeps me from having to play an utter dog of a start, but if I roll two bad starts, well, then one of my challenges at that difficulty level will be playing out of a bad start (but at least I can still play the least bad of two)). I get to play through the zero turn before making that decision (i.e. move my starting warrior one move). But once I've chosen, I have to play that game through to the bitter end.

If I win consecutive games at increasing levels of difficulty up to the highest level, I will have beat the game.

In other words, I'm giving myself eight games to learn how to beat the game at the highest level (assuming there are 8 difficulty levels again).

Also, I can't come on this site to learn strategies. I have to figure out the optimal strategies entirely on my own.

I don't mean to start until the major bugs are worked out of the game. With Civ V they completely redid the social policy trees and it threw off one of my games.

And when I do play, I'll play each of my games very slowly, trying to figure out every angle.

So don't expect to hear from me on the success of this venture until a good while after the game is released. I'll necro this thread to tell anyone who might be interested how it all went, what level I first lost at, or whether I managed this feat..

How 'bout you all? Beating it once at the highest level? Getting every victory at the highest level? Winning once? What would count as "beating the game" in your mind?

 

[Cabbagesavager]

Nothing satisfy me more than watching every other civ burns.

 

[redwings1340]

I will definitely want to get one victory at the highest level, thats a must.

Before then, though, I'm going to want to get victories of every time (except perhaps maybe domination) at a decently high level, say Emperor, maybe immortal. I want to play around, trying different strategies with different civs. Maybe beat the game with every civ at least once, while using their uniques in the process, and feeling like I used each civ to the best of their abilities instead of following a similar strategy every game. That would satisfy me.

 

[Human Crouton]

I'm going to figure out which difficulty level is the hardest while also not denying me certain aspects of the game.(Like V making it impossible to build the Great Library on Immortal or Diety) Hopefully such a difficulty level exists this time around.

I'm then going to beat the game on that difficulty with each civ.

Edit: Also, I'm probably not going to count any of these wins until after the first major patch.

 

[Gori the Grey]

Ah, yeah. I should have added that to my original list of questions: beating the game, at some level, with every civ.

 

[Abraxis]

Hardcore mode: Treat it as any old-school arcade game or rogue-like. If you lose a game at any difficulty, you must return to the lowest difficulty and make your way through each stage all over again.

I'll understand if you want to take the easy way out though.

Also, you can continue past Deity to Deity+, Deity++, etc... Just wait in increments of 5 standard turns without moving anything at the start of each deity game per extra difficulty level you want to advance.

 

[redwings1340]

Hardcore mode: Treat it as any old-school arcade game or rogue-like. If you lose a game at any difficulty, you must return to the lowest difficulty and make your way through each stage all over again.

If you're really set on this, I would set a save point at king. Is there really a point to replaying settler level games because you lost at deity?

 

[Abraxis]

If you're really set on this, I would set a save point at king. Is there really a point to replaying settler level games because you lost at deity?

The point is to languish in the misery of defeat and self-loathing as you trudge back up through the tiers of difficulty... Maybe by the time you've worked back up to Deity you'll have figured out exactly where you went wrong and have established some kind of gambit for success -or given up, accepting your inadequacy and the ultimate insignificance of your meaningless existence in the universe.

But sure you could just go back to king each time, if you want to keep taking the easy way out.

You'll never have your own harem of physically flawless Civ6 groupies serving your every desire with that attitude though. They only flock to the elite -those of us with a little ambition.

With that said...

Ultra-Hardcore mode: No eating or sleeping until you've made it back up to deity, and thirteen (minus one for every deity+ game beaten) lashes for every deity+ loss. Each loss Deity+ and above takes you back down to Deity.
Any loss Deity or below after your first run ending in a Deity victory requires the sacrifice of one of your digits in order to try again, toes count as half a digit each except for the big ones, which are equal to fingers. Order will be at the player's discretion. A groupie may choose to take his or her life in order to spare you this sacrifice, but good luck keeping a healthy harem if you rely on that.

Frankly I don't see how anyone could ever consider this game "beat" without going at least this far.

Really I would say this pretty standard for getting out of what would be considered "casual" play around here.

 

[Galbias]

Initial goals are probably winning once with each victory type and winning once on the highest difficulty, preferably in a way that feels like I'm not rigging the game (ie not a 1v1 where I'm Scythia and my opponent is Gandhi). Beyond that though I'll probably just play to have fun.

 

[redwings1340]

The point is to languish in the misery of defeat and self-loathing as you trudge back up through the tiers of difficulty... Maybe by the time you've worked back up to Deity you'll have figured out exactly where you went wrong and have established some kind of gambit for success -or given up, accepting your inadequacy and the ultimate insignificance of your meaningless existence in the universe.

But sure you could just go back to king each time, if you want to keep taking the easy way out.

lol. I dunno about you, but I like my games to be fun. I'll skip the misery of self loathing.

 

[masda_gib]

I will at least play once as each Civ and win each victory type. Maybe try to get some of the more exotic achievments if there are any again.

 

[Halcyan2]

How 'bout you all? Beating it once at the highest level? Getting every victory at the highest level? Winning once? What would count as "beating the game" in your mind?

Building all the Wonders!!!

Unlocking all the achievements!

 

[CaiusDrewart]

Every victory type at the highest level sounds about right. Plus at least one game with every Civ. At that point you start to feel like you've really got the game down.

If this game is good, though, I should get much more out of it than just that

 

[RealHuhn]

My goal is to have fun. I'll do whatever I feel like rather than following an arbitrary set of rules.

But I know one thing. I won't touch difficulty levels below King. I've already seen enough of the Prince AI, no thanks ^^

 

[spfun]

I guess beating deity on at least standard map/settings. Shouldn't take to long.

then it'll be doing whatever I find most fun from then on.

 

[Calouste]

Win a game with each leader at deity, random map (size/speed standard), consecutively, no restarts.

I don't expect to ever make that, but hey, it's a goal.

 

[MistyRonin]

Maybe I'm weird but to me beating a game like Civ means playing for hundreds of hours, learn all the systems, play with all the civs, achieve all victories, and still have fun.

 

[Cyberian]

Winning once on Deity it is for me.

My first game on Friday morning (after midnight) will be a Deity game with one if the OP civs (Rome, Aztec or Germany). After I beat that game which will hopefully happen over the weekend I consider the game beat.

After that I will change from wanting to beat the game to actually play the game for fun on lower diff which is more pleasant for me. But first I have to beat it once on Deity.

 

[narmox]

It's the other way around for me, I won't beat this game, it is going to beat whatever is left of a semblance of social life....

 

[Myth and Legend]

Considering that I started on Deity with Civ 5 (but I entered late, after the BNW fall patch) and I rammed my head into it untill I got every VC on Deity, I will settle for nothing less.

I am nowhere near the strategic mastery of those here who can beat ANY civ 5 Deity start. Nope. I have to restart. I've gotten a CV as Poland, SV as Russia and DV as England but I can't accont for the dozens of times i've been wiped out by a carpet of doom, or the dozens more where i've given up after being strangled by expansive AIs like Hiawatha and Catherine or seeing how I have to be forced into a DV because it's impossible to get CV/SV with the runaways.

Note that I almost exclusively play Continents, since it simulates the real world. Pangea seems biased towards landlocked Civs for me and detracts from the realism for me.