What's your domination limit?
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For purposes of avoiding the domination limit, Mapstat should only be necessary for use after the map is (mostly) uncovered. Reloading in case of accidental domination is also allowed.
Using Mapstat prior to the map being known would be valuable in helping you pick out a map with a high domination limit though. The HOF shouldn't be about who lucks out and gets the most land tiles on their randomly generated map. So it's ok with me to check the domination limit on a new game with Mapstat. Using the information given by Mapstat on other civs would be a definite no-no still though.
Using Mapstat prior to the map being known would be valuable in helping you pick out a map with a high domination limit though. The HOF shouldn't be about who lucks out and gets the most land tiles on their randomly generated map. So it's ok with me to check the domination limit on a new game with Mapstat. Using the information given by Mapstat on other civs would be a definite no-no still though.
Cool!
That was exactly what I did on selecting the map for my current Chieftain game (the rest of my other map selection for the previous games were simply based on luck). Basically, at 4000 BC before I build my first cities, I check the domination limit, if it's below 3750, I reject it immediately. Then I don't check the map again until after 1000 AD or whenever I think I'm getting close the domination limit. Btw, the domination limit for my current Chieftain game is 3827. Since I have never seen anything more than 37xx before, I immediately accepted this one although the starting position wasn't very good.
Darkness
Shadow creature
3800+??? Wow 
I consider myself lucky if I get around 3750 or so... I've never had a domination limit of more than 3760, IIRC, which is why I am also quite pleased with my start for my new monarch game, which has a domination limit of 3747...
I consider myself lucky if I get around 3750 or so... I've never had a domination limit of more than 3760, IIRC, which is why I am also quite pleased with my start for my new monarch game, which has a domination limit of 3747...
It took me almost ten hours of generating maps before I hit that one, for what that's worth. The starting position wound up not being as hot as it looked either. One of the huts dumped barbarians out and the other gave me a stupid map.
Hi guys,
some days ago I was trying to find a good map on emperor and I got one map with a domination limit of 4051 tiles and another one with 4009, but both starting positions were not that good. My current game on chieftain level has a domination limit of 3721
some days ago I was trying to find a good map on emperor and I got one map with a domination limit of 4051 tiles and another one with 4009, but both starting positions were not that good. My current game on chieftain level has a domination limit of 3721
Darkness
Shadow creature
4000+ domination limits!!!
I wish I had a domination limit like that (coupled with a start like I have now for my monarch game)....
I wish I had a domination limit like that (coupled with a start like I have now for my monarch game)....
I have abandoned that game. The starting position wasn't good plus I have made so many mistake too. Oh well, back to map quest again.
RAj
Chieftain
Hi Guys,
My current Cheftain game, huge, pangea has domination limit of 3776. I was thinking that it was one of the highest... bummer. Someone actually has 3928, wow! I think I need to get back to generating maps and mapstat.
My current Cheftain game, huge, pangea has domination limit of 3776. I was thinking that it was one of the highest... bummer. Someone actually has 3928, wow! I think I need to get back to generating maps and mapstat.
Hey, RAj! Welcome to CFC!
I'd just like to point out that while higher domination limits do raise the 'ceiling' on potential score, the variance between 3600 tiles and 3900 is only about 3%. I think the true factors in getting a high score are the ability to hit the domination limit as quickly as possible and skill in milking the crap out of the game as well as possible for as long as possible.
I do have a 3900+ tile limit in my current game, but I'm not a great milker. I think it's safe to say that Moonsinger and SirPleb, as well as several others, could easily topple my 3xxx scores using 1xxxx tiles.
I'd just like to point out that while higher domination limits do raise the 'ceiling' on potential score, the variance between 3600 tiles and 3900 is only about 3%. I think the true factors in getting a high score are the ability to hit the domination limit as quickly as possible and skill in milking the crap out of the game as well as possible for as long as possible.
I do have a 3900+ tile limit in my current game, but I'm not a great milker. I think it's safe to say that Moonsinger and SirPleb, as well as several others, could easily topple my 3xxx scores using 1xxxx tiles.
RAj
Chieftain
Hi Superslug,
I appreciate the warm welcome. You guys are great. I am in the process of a milking a game currently. Description - Indians, huge, pangea, domination limit 3663 tiles, current year 1768, current score 2905. I think I started late but hope to be able to make it to a score of around 6000 and find my way into HOF. At present I have 110 tiles before hitting domination, 4505 people (Mapstat), 82% approval rate.
I appreciate the warm welcome. You guys are great. I am in the process of a milking a game currently. Description - Indians, huge, pangea, domination limit 3663 tiles, current year 1768, current score 2905. I think I started late but hope to be able to make it to a score of around 6000 and find my way into HOF. At present I have 110 tiles before hitting domination, 4505 people (Mapstat), 82% approval rate.
Darkness
Shadow creature
Hey RAj,
What level is that game?
BTW, I started another new game on monarch level in the weekend, with a domination limit of 3808. Not very high, but pretty good, with a nice start...
What level is that game?
BTW, I started another new game on monarch level in the weekend, with a domination limit of 3808. Not very high, but pretty good, with a nice start...
RAj
Chieftain
Hi Darkness,
Oops forgot to metion, its cheftain level. I am still a novice. Though I do end up reading a lot of posting in the forum but I have'nt found the opportunity to implement all of them.
3808 is an excellent start, Darkness. In my map searching efforts yesterday (cheftain, huge, pangea, 4 Bil, Wet, Warm, default rules, sedentary, America) I came across a 3921 domination limit. But it don't look like a good start.
Oops forgot to metion, its cheftain level. I am still a novice. Though I do end up reading a lot of posting in the forum but I have'nt found the opportunity to implement all of them.
3808 is an excellent start, Darkness. In my map searching efforts yesterday (cheftain, huge, pangea, 4 Bil, Wet, Warm, default rules, sedentary, America) I came across a 3921 domination limit. But it don't look like a good start.
Darkness
Shadow creature
IMHO, 5 billion years old would be better. Less mountain, more grassland!
I know 3800+ is good. Actually everything above 3700 is pretty nice, but I always want more!
I know 3800+ is good. Actually everything above 3700 is pretty nice, but I always want more!
Hey, just though I'd mention my 3918 domination limit on my emperor game. Plus its a grassland, river and 3 cow start. Its also got lots of bonus tiles. I got 3 4-turn settler factories going just to say something about the land.
Darkness
Shadow creature
That sounds very promising Rallonian.
