Where does the Great Library stand now?

[jeespoks]

It'd be fantastic if I could get it on Deity.

Seeing how it's generally gone around turn 30, I don't see any way to actually build it. Maybe if I hit two pop ruins, got Writing from a ruin and chopped. Maybe.

It might be possible to get GL on Deity with Shoshone. I think you'd need four forest tiles to chop (additional starting tiles help with that), some luck with tech ruins (to get at least one of the three techs needed) and steal a worker(or two if you don't get a free one from Liberty as your 2nd policy).

I haven't tried this yet, don't know how probable it is to get enough ruins even with three PFs and more importantly, is it worth it?

Ruin order could be tech, pop, culture, tech, pop, faith, tech

 

[bjarkieinars]

On Emperor and above, it's highly unlikely you will even get a shot at GL, unless you are playing a Duel-sized map and the one AI is more intent on building units than wonders.

I manage to build it on Emperor with forest chopping and aristocracy if the capital is on fine dirt.

 

[Arrowstorm]

Doesn't it have two Work of Writing slots? Very few buildings has two slots of Writing to get a theme-bonus, only Oxford University in a long, long time.

 

[GAGA Extrem]

The Great Library still does what it does best:
It stands there and keeps being awesome!

 

[VainoValkea]

Doesn't it have two Work of Writing slots? Very few buildings has two slots of Writing to get a theme-bonus, only Oxford University in a long, long time.

Indeed. I managed to get GL on king and used it to get Drama and Poetry - although it's quite a gamble indeed.

 

[PhilBowles]

On average its gone on turn 35 or so (standard pace) I think. On a good start you can build it by around t40-42. It's rough trying to build it.

Had a weird start where no one was bothering with Wonders (Emperor). I ended up going for GL and getting it at around turn 100.

 

[Gyra Solune]

If you can get it early and really, really, REALLY push Tourism, it's possible, on mid-level difficulties, to get a headstart on becoming Influential with others early on. The Great Library is now less of a tech jumper so much as it is an early opportunity to get the Tourism machine rolling, especially since it's on the same tech path as most of the other culture/tourism relating things. Religion is also pretty helpful for Tourism in many cases, and if you push to Theology you've pretty much got the religion game beat.

I must say, the Maya in particular are definitely very indirectly buffed by this expansion. Easy early GWAMs, Piety+Rationalism, the increased flexibility of religion, and their little buff to Science with the Pyramid makes burning through the top of the tech tree an incredibly powerful strategy for them, though they will definitely be very reliant on naval trade routes early-game since
Animal Husbandry might be entirely bypassed for a while.

 

[Wuddel]

I usually do not try to get in, but on immortal you can get it maybe every 5th to 10th time. Only with a good food tile and a production tile AND a few forests to chop. And only really worth as Korea/Babylon/Sweden.

 

[SammyKhalifa]

It's a pretty fun time with Poland if you can use it to tech into the new age. Yeah, obvious I know, but it was still neat. This was on King as I'm still having a pretty slow time adapting to the new "stuff."

 

[edenc]

It might be possible to get GL on Deity with Shoshone. I think you'd need four forest tiles to chop (additional starting tiles help with that), some luck with tech ruins (to get at least one of the three techs needed) and steal a worker(or two if you don't get a free one from Liberty as your 2nd policy).

I haven't tried this yet, don't know how probable it is to get enough ruins even with three PFs and more importantly, is it worth it?

Ruin order could be tech, pop, culture, tech, pop, faith, tech

Yeah, I landed it on Deity with Shoshone. It helps if you settle the capital on marble.