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Gedas
Guest
Which three wonders of the world is jou best? My three best wonder is Piramids,Michelagelo's Chapel and Leonardo's Workshop.
SlowwHand
King
Not bad, but I'd pick Adam Smith's or Hoover's Dam over Pyramids.
Leonardo's Workshop, Michaelangelo's Chapel and Hoover's Dam. Esp Michaelangelo's Chapel.
Bud2998
Bud the Ironfist
I'd say Leonardo's Workshop, Hoover Dam, and Pyramids are the best. It's hard to beat a big and productive nation with a modern military. I'd say Adam Smith's Trading Co. and Michaelangelo's Chapel comes after those.
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starlifter
Deity
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3 Best:
1. Michelangelo's Chapel (Invaluable. Worth over 12,000, often over 20,000; essential for Deity growth; can be worth over 600 gold per turn; about 30,000 - 40,000 gold total, in a large deity game)
2. JS Bach (Invaluable, nothing can duplicate its effects in a Democracy/Republic; allows early Rep/Dem wars & growth at same time)
3. Pyramids (typically worth 8,000 - 12,000 early-late game shields & 1,200 early game gold; greatly helps growth; allows easy "push" of science/tax/shields)
4. Hoover Dam
5. Leonardo's Workshop
6. Adam Smith's Trading Company
1. Michelangelo's Chapel (Invaluable. Worth over 12,000, often over 20,000; essential for Deity growth; can be worth over 600 gold per turn; about 30,000 - 40,000 gold total, in a large deity game)
2. JS Bach (Invaluable, nothing can duplicate its effects in a Democracy/Republic; allows early Rep/Dem wars & growth at same time)
3. Pyramids (typically worth 8,000 - 12,000 early-late game shields & 1,200 early game gold; greatly helps growth; allows easy "push" of science/tax/shields)
4. Hoover Dam
5. Leonardo's Workshop
6. Adam Smith's Trading Company
Kefka
Your local Schizophrenic
1.Leos Workshop
2.Adam Smith
3.Michelangelo's Chapel
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<IMG SRC="http://www.grworld.com/vanillacubesgames/files/kefka.gif" border=0>"Why Create things when you know they must be destroyed!"
"I will Create A monument to nothingness!"
2.Adam Smith
3.Michelangelo's Chapel
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<IMG SRC="http://www.grworld.com/vanillacubesgames/files/kefka.gif" border=0>"Why Create things when you know they must be destroyed!"
"I will Create A monument to nothingness!"
1.Cope's
2.Mich's or JSB
3.War Academy
That would be enough to keep you competive.Kinda depends on the situation....there is no 1 correct answer.
2.Mich's or JSB
3.War Academy
That would be enough to keep you competive.Kinda depends on the situation....there is no 1 correct answer.
TrailblazingScot
I was kittenOFchaos
Each to their own suff
1. js bach -michael can be replicated with cathed's but JS can't.
2. womens suffrage -I know I won't be fundy or communist.
3. magellans expedition -frigates and ironclads will be on their way!
1. js bach -michael can be replicated with cathed's but JS can't.
2. womens suffrage -I know I won't be fundy or communist.
3. magellans expedition -frigates and ironclads will be on their way!
SlowwHand
King
Smash is correct, it depends on your style of play.
Very rarely does anybody vote Lighthouse, but if you see the way Boann uses it, it will quickly change your perception.
Pyramids, at least in 2x production, are the biggest waste of resources there is in the game.
That's just my opinion, and comes from the style I play, and the way I situate my cities.
They may be absolutely critical to someone else.
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It's In The Way That You Use It
Tuatha De Danann Tribe
ICQ 51553293
Very rarely does anybody vote Lighthouse, but if you see the way Boann uses it, it will quickly change your perception.
Pyramids, at least in 2x production, are the biggest waste of resources there is in the game.
That's just my opinion, and comes from the style I play, and the way I situate my cities.
They may be absolutely critical to someone else.
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It's In The Way That You Use It
Tuatha De Danann Tribe
ICQ 51553293
woke25
Prince
Lighthouse
Leonardo's workshop
statue of liberty
i dont need any others.
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Woke23
Civ Fanatics Ladder Operator
Leonardo's workshop
statue of liberty
i dont need any others.
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Woke23
Civ Fanatics Ladder Operator
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A.D.S
Guest
Leonardo Workshop, Hoover Dam, and Pyramids
I think both Bach and Michelangelo worth something but I prefer fundamentalism so little help from these two.
I think both Bach and Michelangelo worth something but I prefer fundamentalism so little help from these two.
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spycatcher34
Guest
Adam Smith,Leonardo's workshop,Pyramids
Depends on the level of difficulty, with the increasing unhappiness at higher level the happiness improvement become the most important and pyramids are actually to be avoided.
At the lower levels:
pyramids, Leo's, Copernenicus's(for your ssc)
at deity:
Hanging gardens, Michelangelo's, Copernicus's
Hoover dam, while being an great convenience, comes way too late in the game to commonly have an affect on the winner. The game is usually decide before any of the modern orders are available.
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Gauis Mucius Scaevola Sinistra
Pontificator Pedanticus
Older, richer, and wiser than you.
Did I mention that I love the spellchecker?
At the lower levels:
pyramids, Leo's, Copernenicus's(for your ssc)
at deity:
Hanging gardens, Michelangelo's, Copernicus's
Hoover dam, while being an great convenience, comes way too late in the game to commonly have an affect on the winner. The game is usually decide before any of the modern orders are available.
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Gauis Mucius Scaevola Sinistra
Pontificator Pedanticus
Older, richer, and wiser than you.
Did I mention that I love the spellchecker?
starlifter
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Ever seen the tremendous amount of cash that 200 fundy cities can generate with Michelangelo's and JS Bach? Wow... esp. if you have Marketplaces!
You and I have the same exact top 5 wonders, though just in a different order
HIEROPHANT
Videogame God
for high score the pryamids are good to have eary. It mainly depends on the situation in normal games on which wonders.
Ecco
The man with the plan
He he!
Lithunians rule!
My best ones are....
3) Womans Suffrage
2) Mike's Chapel
1) Leo's shop
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"The weak have one weapon: the errors of those who think they are strong."
- Georges Bidault
Lithunians rule!
My best ones are....
3) Womans Suffrage
2) Mike's Chapel
1) Leo's shop
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"The weak have one weapon: the errors of those who think they are strong."
- Georges Bidault
Dogberry_Old
****** of the Pack
Never really worry about it..sometimes I wish that they weren't even in the game as building them turns the other players eyes inward instead of outward..and some of them can scare the bejesus out of everybody ( Statue of Liberty & Leonardo's ).
I like Marco Polo as up until then, I don't have a good picture of what is going on ( usually ) & will more likely than not make a try for it.
The happiness Wonders all have their usefulness.. even the somewhat pathetic Oracle can be helpful sometimes.
I am kind of changing my mind about the Pyramids as I most often play 1x1.
They all really depend on the situation at the time. Occasionally I set up a Wonder building machine just to irritate another player who has done likewise..sayin in effect.."see I can hog all the Wonders too!"
Dog
I like Marco Polo as up until then, I don't have a good picture of what is going on ( usually ) & will more likely than not make a try for it.
The happiness Wonders all have their usefulness.. even the somewhat pathetic Oracle can be helpful sometimes.
I am kind of changing my mind about the Pyramids as I most often play 1x1.
They all really depend on the situation at the time. Occasionally I set up a Wonder building machine just to irritate another player who has done likewise..sayin in effect.."see I can hog all the Wonders too!"
Dog
allan
Cabrón
As someone else here said, priority depends on situation. I.e. if you are playing on an archipelago, or find yourself on a smallish landmass, Lighthouse and Magellan's become very valuable. If you plan on having a large empire (not necessary to win the game, BTW), Pyramids, Mike's, Leonardo's, Bach's, Hoover Dam, and other "global" (affecting all cities) wonders can be important or even crucial. If you plan on being aggressive, Sun Tzu's (all units veteran) is a must for you. Democracies need Shakespeare (in a high production coastal city, to support as many offensive and naval units as possible without unhappiness) and Suffrage (for additional "unhappy" units), and the UN is helpful for countering the Senate. If you have a particularly high-trade city (on a river or coast, with some trade specials), I'd also recommend the Colossus, Copernicus, and Newton for that city to turn it into a research powerhouse.
And of course, if you want to build LOTS of wonders, build King Richard's in a populous and high-production city--it gives you an industrial-strength city before anyone else can build factories!
BTW, Leonardo's is ALWAYS a priority for me, whether I'm large or small--just to keep the AI from getting it! And I won't build the Manhattan Project unless someone else starts to, or until the game is about to end (timed for completion a year before my spaceship lands), purely for the points--I like to keep the nuclear can of worms shut as long as possible!
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And of course, if you want to build LOTS of wonders, build King Richard's in a populous and high-production city--it gives you an industrial-strength city before anyone else can build factories!
BTW, Leonardo's is ALWAYS a priority for me, whether I'm large or small--just to keep the AI from getting it! And I won't build the Manhattan Project unless someone else starts to, or until the game is about to end (timed for completion a year before my spaceship lands), purely for the points--I like to keep the nuclear can of worms shut as long as possible!
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allan
Cabrón
One question: I've never been in this situation, but if you don't build Apollo (someone beats you to it), but subsequently get space flight, do you then get to see the whole map? It appears the AI does (I sent a spy to investigate a city of a civ who stole space flight from me after I launched Apollo, and when I clicked "map" on their city screen saw the whole world on it), but would a human player? Just curious, because I often sweated getting Apollo in situations where the race was tight, just so I could get that global view....
Yes
"Astronauts bring back pictures of Earth blah blah"
Presumably,these are available to all nations.I guess thru TV,Newspaper,Internet etc.
"Astronauts bring back pictures of Earth blah blah"
Presumably,these are available to all nations.I guess thru TV,Newspaper,Internet etc.
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