Which Tile for City Settlement?

[PinkHammurabi]

Hey guys, got a quick question.

I'm still in the early stages of my first game as I had some extremely frustrating installation-then-graphical issues (which still somewhat persist, and will require a separate thread sometime soon), so I don't know how things play out in Civ VI in the long run yet, which keeps me from being able to decide between two tiles for my next city. (I haven't posted an image before from my hard drive, if this is the wrong way to do so, please inform me, and please forgive my ignorance).

Essentially I cannot decide between where my Warrior is located, or the Desert tile to the west. By settling between the Warrior and the Oasis, I can access every tile surrounding Piopiotahi which all get an extra Gold and Culture (stacking). That leads to some very strong tiles, such as the Stone that I've highlighted with 2 Food/Prod/Gold/Culture that I wouldn't have next to the river. However, after years of Civving I'm predisposed to greatly favoring settling adjacent to rivers, which grants access to things like Water Mills and other River-Adjacent-Only buildings and bonuses.

Since I don't yet know how many river-required buildings et al. there are in Civ VI compared to Civ V (I saw Water Mills in the tree, though, but that's it) and such large area bonuses are new to Civ VI, I'm having a hard time knowing which will be more beneficial when all is said and done.

Being my first game I threw the difficulty down and ultimately I know that either will be more than sufficient, but since I only play on Marathon I'll be dealing with the results of the choice for some time, and otherwise it's simply useful information in general.

Any help or advice is very appreciated. Thanks in advance!

 

[KmDubya]

I would settle on the river either south east of the warrior (EAST of the wheat) or two tiles south of the warrior (WEST of the lower wheat). Fresh water is huge and a watermill will get you an extra cog as well as an extra 3 food from the wheat.

Best to stay away from the coast. I'd place the commercial district where the warrior is and a harbor next to it and the two fish.


EDIT - Had the east and the west backwards!

 

[grandad1982]

Yeah probably 1se. Still get both fish and you pick up the resources to the south. Can you not place another city west of the natural wonder of you want to work those tiles?

 

[lamaros]

I reckon settle where the warrior is or the se, no other spots really make sense.

 

[Frank327]

One to the west is definately the right spot because you still get fresh water from the oasis. You don't need the water mill. But the reason is not the natural wonder, it's the production. I'm only counting two decent production tiles if you move SE (and that's counting desert hill as decent) while you get four more decent production tiles by moving one to the west. Also you get the sweet national park as a bonus.

 

[joncnunn]

Myself: I'd found one east of the warrior on the forest tile; otherwise that NE fish resource will never get worked by anything. Some future city west will take in anything west that this doesn't take in.
Commericial District: Where the warrior is standing
Harbor: On coast NE of Warrior next to two sea resources

I'm seeing a nice two tile mountain range: Whichever of Holy Site and Campus you are more interested in goes on the hex on the side of the mountain range closer to you; while the tile on the far side of it eventually gets the other; note you'll probably have to cash buy that tile on the far side of the mountain range when ready.

The city will need an Industrial zone; but it also needs techs like Bronze Working to reveal the resources first.

On the overview map, there's a fairly large gap between this area and your capital (which appears to be in the South); found some cities along the river between your capital and this area first.

 

[Ryika]

either south east of the warrior (west of the wheat) .

That's a terrible idea imho, you wouldn't get a single Farm-Triangle that way.

Imho settling onto the forest in the east is the best slot, leaves the whole river for farms, and makes room for an additional fresh-water city next to the Oasis.

 

[isau]

Me being me I'd reroll this start because all that desert is going to be frustrating. Maybe as a secondary city but I couldn't stomach this is a starting city.

I can't see the yield icons, but I believe that entire starting area has +1 Hammer total (the desert hill).

 

[Lucius_]

Your capital is over there west, yes? how much of that land will the capital pick up?. Right now I'd agree with going one tile west, next to the oasis.

 

[jakedamus]

It depends on where your next two cities are going since you want to create at least three industrial districts with factories within 6 tiles of your capital. Sometimes you should sacrifice the 'best' spot in the early game for one which will help you in mid game.
When starting I look for a spot with 6 grids (free of mountains and luxuries). This spot is where I will place at least 6 districts from 3 cities. (3 of these districts being factories).
I then plant my city where it can reach this area. (or restart).

In your case with so many desert and mountain tiles as well as a close neighbor I would probably start where you spawned. I would eventually put my next two cities on the trees to the west and on the sheep to the south.