Who is the most aggressive leader?

[Genv [FP]]

Or you've had your chips if it's actually Portugal. But literally, it's the Khan.
Genghis is SOOO annoying! He once declared war on me and I lost one of my cities. He's also so sneaky. I once got Defensive Pact with him, then he declared war on Julius Caesar and I had to as well, and I wasn't that advanced.

Defensive pacts are broken if anybody DOWs.

 

[Jazzmail]

I love maps with Monty, even at furious he'll trade with you and you can pay him to war anyone. Not to mention with him around you don't have to worry about being anyone's 'worst enemy'.

Downside is unless you nuture him with free war techs he gets wiped out and vassals a majority of the time.

A monty map is a gift not to be wasted! lol

QFT!

Anyway, Monty isn't agressive, he's just playful.

Those small stacks of suicidal units he sents at your citiies are a handy source of XP. He rarely even pillages.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

Isn't this hard coded? I'm pretty certain Monty is tops, even though shaka trains more troops and generally fights more effectively. I don't remember with Ragnar and Ghengis but both have very high attack probability and train% as well.

Monty trains slightly less troops than Shaka but is slightly more aggressive (bear in mind though that there is a hard cap that prevents AI DoWs in power, and Shaka is more likely to surpass it). Anyway Monty technically wins here, although I'd much prefer the backwards idiot in the game instead of more effective alternatives.

 

[Kawalimus]

I don't think I've ever had Alexander not DOW on me if he's next to me. I've been able to deal with all those other ones even Montezuma.

The key to Montezuma is keep him busy with someone else. He techs poorly which works really well in your favor, cause you'll have lots of techs to bribe him into war and he'll just fall behind again anyway so you don't have much to worry about by doing that. Use him to help you conquer other annoying neighbors then turn on him and kill him too.

 

[Civ Diploma]

For me it would have to go to Tokugawa. He starts off Cautious, and when I want open borders with him I need to give him several, if sometimes all, of my techs.

 

[Onionsoilder]

Or you've had your chips if it's actually Portugal. But literally, it's the Khan.
Genghis is SOOO annoying! He once declared war on me and I lost one of my cities. He's also so sneaky. I once got Defensive Pact with him, then he declared war on Julius Caesar and I had to as well, and I wasn't that advanced.

Wait, what? If HE declares war on Caesar, the pact should have been canceled, and you wouldn't have to go to war. It's called a defensive pact for a reason.

As far as the leaders:

Most psychopathic, aggressive, and just plain insane leader = Monty
Most dangerous, powerful, warmongering leader = Shaka
Most trecherous, backstabbing evil leader = Ragnar
Most annoying leader = Joao II

 

[CCRunner]

Monty is most aggressive but Shaka is by far more dangerous as has been said before.

 

[Hardin]

Montezuma declares war on me in every game and he's in most of my games for some reason. But Shaka is the one I need to watch out for. He is deadly and he doesn't always declare war like Monty does so he lures me into a false sense of security and strikes me when I am most vulnerable.

 

[Joshua368]

Monty - Crazy little psychopath, annoying but never really a threat, just a pest. Once I had him on a continent with two other civs and he pretty much declared wars on everyone in succession, one after the other. The second time he got to me I pretty much had enough. Smashed his offensive stack, marched my troops across to the far side of the continent, took one of his larger cities and capitulated the coward. What a joke.

Genghis Khan - Certainly an aggressive jerk, more than what the poll gives him credit for. I've fought this guy and what sets him apart is that he razes my cities rather just letting me recapture him. Yeah, that ticks me off, gotta watch this jerk.

Alexander - I've ran into this guy about a half dozen times and he's always been a complete joke. I don't know what's wrong with his AI personality but he always finds himself backwards and weak, every single game, it's patethic.

Shaka - Voted for this guy. Had him as my neighbor on more than one occassion, he declares on you and is actually threatening. Even when I successfully fought off his attacks in a very tense defensive war and got peace, he came around ten or so turns later for another go. He can also easily get out of hand mowing over AIs if you don't watch it.

Ragnar - I dunno, I always seem to get along with this guy. He's pretty cool.

Catherine - Even if she doesn't have the offensive trait, she always seems to find a way to get a massive stack of doom on my doorstep even if she's on the other side of the contintent. Gah, Cathy, why?!

 

[King Jason]

I'll echo the sentiment that Monty may be more aggressive than Shaka, but I also agree that Shaka is vastly more dangerous than Monty.

In my experience at least, Shaka is easily one of the most dangerous AI period. Sure, there are plenty who can out-tech him, but Shaka is the only AI I've ever fought in wars where I've felt my opponent actually has half a brain.

Catherine has been another opponent to ruffle my feathers. Monty, Genghis, Ragnar and even Alexander have never given me trouble. Monty is the only one of the bunch who lives up to his CFC reputation in my games, but he's a pushover. It actually excites me to see Monty, since I often build the GW and even without it, he means free XP. With it, he means free XP and fast generals.

 

[mushutoku]

It seems that everyone consider Monty to be an aggressive but not dangerous...in my experience, he is the only one who actually made a succesfull intercontinental invasion on my poor island...playing with Luis, noble level. 6 green galleons+frigates out of nothing, filled with cavalry and cannons...not very funny....
whatch your back....

 

[TheMeInTeam]

Monty has higher aggression (and thus gets the vote) but lower buildunitprob than shaka. Vikings are coded very similarly and deserve to be there too.

Experience suggests Shaka is the most consistently dangerous AI on that list. It's laughably rare that he does poorly.

 

[Charonicus]

Come to think of it, I dont think I've ever had Tokugawa declare war on me, or even anyone else. He always just sits there and stagnates from lack of trade.

Yeah, I find that a lot too.

Funny how people get on differently with some leaders. Shaka is rarely a problem to me so far, in fact he's usually my pet dog. Monte is the most aggressive in terms of war likelihood but so easily dealt with. I voted Alex, who seems to have a habit of declaring on me but my real enemy in the game is...
Hannibal! I mean seriously. He holds a grudge. In every game he constantly declares on me, even if he has no chance of winning. I relish every opportunity to make him my . .. .. .. .. .. ¬¬

Also, Ragnar is currently my greatest ally in my current game. Who'da thunk it.

 

[AmazonQueen]

Yeah, I find that a lot too.

Funny how people get on differently with some leaders. Shaka is rarely a problem to me so far, in fact he's usually my pet dog. Monte is the most aggressive in terms of war likelihood but so easily dealt with. I voted Alex, who seems to have a habit of declaring on me but my real enemy in the game is...
Hannibal! I mean seriously. He holds a grudge. In every game he constantly declares on me, even if he has no chance of winning. I relish every opportunity to make him my . .. .. .. .. .. ¬¬

Also, Ragnar is currently my greatest ally in my current game. Who'da thunk it.

Its funny. I don't think I've ever had a game where Hannibal has done well as an AI. Alex can be really dangerous. I was playing as Shaka on an Earth map once and after Augustus had built the GW and Mids (but was still defending with warriors) Alex marched in and took Rome. He soon became the dominant power in Europe with most everyone else in his vicinity conquered or vassalised

 

[LordBuildaholic]

In a long career of building myself into a nice fat, inviting, pig for aggro slaughter, I can attest to the fact that Montezuma is a psychopath of the highest order. He seems to attack early on and no peace discussions last with any effect.

Ragnar is a close second.

I rarely butt heads with Shaka for some reason. I put him third.

Alexander attacks me even less, but when he does, he attacks at moments when I've built up militarily, and I whoop his ass (usually).

However, perhaps the most aggressive leader not mentioned so far is actually Isabella.

 

[Skell Jell]

I think they all are aggressive. I think Alexander is very aggressive at times. But so are others.

 

[Old_Man_River__]

Yeah Monty has to go simple as that. Soon as i see a hint of that green border on the fringes of the fog, im spamming military units like some sort of possessed madman

thats how i react to mansa musa. there is something about him that bothers me.

 

[azzaman333]

Shaka just beats Ragnar, since Ragnar can be tamed with HR. However, both of them have been serial pests in my games.

Monty OTOH tends to declare too early, or on the wrong target and gets pummeled.

 

[Rusty Edge]

Montezuma is the most aggressive in the 'omg psychopath' sense, but the most dangerous of those four I'd say is Shaka. He can really really easily dominate the map and if he's not friendly with you when he runs out of prey, he WILL come after you.

I , too, agree. He's particularly dangerous when he vassalizes Ghandi or Mansa to tech for him.

 

[6K Man]

Monty is the most aggressive, but not the most dangerous. He'll send a suicide stack at me really early in every single game. After it dies, I send my newly promoted Axemen out, keep his capital and raze everything else.

Ragnar, I watch out for. I seldom see Shaka in my games. I never manage to get along with any of the Romans, either.