If the purpose of the wonder is still to enable construction of the alpha centauri space ship it seems to me the moon landing is more suitable. Only after struggling to get to the moon were we really able to confidently travel into space. It's sortof a stepping stone into the rest of space. Now, I only say that if the choice is between the two. Really it seems neither should enable the Alpha Centauri spaceship. Both of them should be wonders, but neither of them really allowed us to create complex inter solar system spacecraft.
Why Apollo Program?
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dh_epic
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The problem with a game that is western-centric has little to do with political correctness. I don't really care for that crap, myself.
My problem is the game just always ends up feeling repetitive. Whether I'm playing as the Zulus or the Chinese, I feel like I'm jumping through Rome, Europe, and America's hurdles.
I think the appeal in the game for everyone who picks it up -- whether they decide to keep playing it or not -- is the idea that they could play through history and watch it play out in really surprising and unexpected ways.
The Apollo program takes away from that. Apollo program feels like America's big space accomplishment, not mankind's first space accomplishment. I'm not saying that because it has a famous name, either.
"First man in space" feels like the real first accomplishment, the real trailblazer, landmark achievement. You don't even have to know that it was done by the Soviets to know that it feels like something special. No amount of TV marketing necessary to make "First Man in Space" feel like a larger giant step than landing on the moon. Even landing on Mars doesn't make that huge jump like being the first to crack open space.
So when the Zulus have the first man in space, you feel like you're rewriting history... not jumping through America's hoops.
And as for those who say "it won't happen", then 90% of the people on this forum should shut their mouths. It's not a question of whether or not it will happen, but whether anyone recognizes an opportunity to make the game more interesting and that spreads ...
The apollo mission versus the first space flight is just one little example, really.
My problem is the game just always ends up feeling repetitive. Whether I'm playing as the Zulus or the Chinese, I feel like I'm jumping through Rome, Europe, and America's hurdles.
I think the appeal in the game for everyone who picks it up -- whether they decide to keep playing it or not -- is the idea that they could play through history and watch it play out in really surprising and unexpected ways.
The Apollo program takes away from that. Apollo program feels like America's big space accomplishment, not mankind's first space accomplishment. I'm not saying that because it has a famous name, either.
"First man in space" feels like the real first accomplishment, the real trailblazer, landmark achievement. You don't even have to know that it was done by the Soviets to know that it feels like something special. No amount of TV marketing necessary to make "First Man in Space" feel like a larger giant step than landing on the moon. Even landing on Mars doesn't make that huge jump like being the first to crack open space.
So when the Zulus have the first man in space, you feel like you're rewriting history... not jumping through America's hoops.
And as for those who say "it won't happen", then 90% of the people on this forum should shut their mouths. It's not a question of whether or not it will happen, but whether anyone recognizes an opportunity to make the game more interesting and that spreads ...
The apollo mission versus the first space flight is just one little example, really.
SwitchbladeNGC
Bird of Prey
eg577 said:
As I mentioned earlier I think the ISS would be a better choice than The Apollo Program for being able to build a Ship to go to Alpha Centari. If you have ever played SMAC it would be even more appearent since it required several diffrent "Factions" working together much like the ISS.
(on a side note, I think it would be cool to have a cooperative victory where you have to build an ISS of sorts. Let me know what you think.)
There is one more achievement of good old mother russia:
The MIR station, the permanent residence in space... For industrial and technological purposes this means more then the first man in space / landing on the moon.
The ability to conduct scientific experiments in space without gravity is a great boon for science. Various aspects of science, biology, electronics, quantum physics, etc, all benefit from experiments in space.
Perhaps more wonders...?
Ciao...
The MIR station, the permanent residence in space... For industrial and technological purposes this means more then the first man in space / landing on the moon.
The ability to conduct scientific experiments in space without gravity is a great boon for science. Various aspects of science, biology, electronics, quantum physics, etc, all benefit from experiments in space.
Perhaps more wonders...?
Ciao...
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