Why are people disappointed with Civ 4????
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boneys26
BTS Play session tester
some people are still having problems, up untill last week i was having problems myself first bought the game and needed a patch cuz i have a ATI graphics card (game wouldn't even play) fixed that (v1.09 patch) still had a few probs tho CDT's etc... installed patch v1.52 and didn't fix a thing made it worse for me renderer problems, not enough video memory (256mb on graphics card) CDT's etc... so i took the game back. but my mate was still working on my problems untill last week when he sorted out the problems so i got the game again. Now its working great and i would agree with you now yes this is the best civi yet. But with the problems its also easily the worst.
eddie_verdde
Warlord
Zalcron said:
and in some cases Civ2....
Also, why open another thread to discuss what is wrong about CIV4, if there are already so many? If you read somewhere that people are disappointed with CIV4 go back there and read more carefully.
cheers!
Desert-Fox
King
I guess the problem is not in civ4 but people are so much played civ3 or civ2 that it is hard to adapt... they want to use same strategies, miss the units what doesn't exist anymore etc... the sun was more yellow in the past, the sea was more blue etc... like elder people love to say.
I bet when civ5 will come out... people will disappoint and say that civ4 was great but civ5 is BS!
I bet when civ5 will come out... people will disappoint and say that civ4 was great but civ5 is BS!
azzaman333
meh
For me, the problem is the new graphics. I would've been happy if they kept Civ 3 graphics (or a small upgrade) rather than turning it 3D. If they hadnt have wasted the time making everything 3d, maybe there wouldn't be any bugs in the game, since it could've been playtested more. They also could;ve spent the time making the SDK so it would be ready with the initial release.
Also, Civ 4 tends to crash alot, while Civ 3 crashes very rarely.
Also, Civ 4 tends to crash alot, while Civ 3 crashes very rarely.
DrewBledsoe
Veteran QB
I love Civ IV, loved Civ III , Civ II and original Civ, and I'll probably love Civ V even if its erases my harddrive , but like all programs that "try to push the envelope" its got issues ..not unsolvable.. but its designed with top end modern computers in mind..and a lot of people ..well can't play it to its full potential..people love playing Civ.. fact..that's why they get cross when it doesn't work as they maybe they hoped..if they hated it , they wouldn't care .. (my god this is sounding like a lecture an ex-girlfriend once gave me)
Anyways those who can play...
Anyways those who can play...
Desert-Fox
King
I've 1GB ram, 160GB hdd, AMD athlon 3000+, Nvidia 128MB 6600 GT ... not the top computer but civ4 works pretty well.
tbd said:
thank you, the articles i have read about this subject seem to be other threads going off on a tandom, so i thought it was ony fair to post a thread exclusivily about this subject here. And if u dont like it by all means feel free not to read it.
Phoenix_56721
Prince
This is a interesting poll that has been running for awhile now, it asked you to vote for you're favorite Civilization game in the series. Right now it looks like 70% of the people voting think Civ4 is the best game yet.
Here's the link: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=153878
Here's the link: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=153878
White Elk
99 > 1
Looking at the sheer volume of PBEMs, SGs, Strategy articles etc etc... it is clear to me that far more people like this game than don't. It seems to me that those few who don't like it are just making alot of noise. And I wouldn't be surprised if some of them had multiple accounts and are spamming the board with their selfish rage. Of course there are people having real problems playing this game and I have compassion for them. But much of the hate speech I've seen here goes far beyond having troubles playing a video game. I suspect some few are just trolling for the sake of trolling. And I wouldn't be surprised if there were post made here by professional trollers seeking to undermine sales of this game. Thats just a guess based on observation.. but I do know that the vast majority of people are happy with the game. The number of GOTM submitions vs 'dissatisfied posters' alone would suggest this.
eddie_verdde
Warlord
tbd said:
1 - I am not trying to run anything
2 - I never said the thread was illegitimate
3 - I posted a reply because I actually added information (i.e. I suggested that some people are not only "going back to Civ3" but also "going back to Civ2"
4 - If there is someone who is trying to run a forum it's you because you're trying to conditionate what should and what should not be posted in a thread. If you read through your post, you clearly see that it's off-topic.
I have a computer from 2002 with 512mb Ram, 2.2 ghz and 64mb video card . . .
and no problem what so ever. I do run it with minimum graphics though.
Maybe I was just used to slow modern era gameplay from civ3? Maybe a whole new generation of civers are around who expect the game to be blazing fast.
Maybe people need to remove all the crap running in the system background, defrag their hd, and remove some spyware.
Who knows. I've been playing civ since the 1st version and would rate this one better than 3. Two was great, but I feel that 4 could surpass once the mods/scenarios start rolling out. One was great.
and no problem what so ever. I do run it with minimum graphics though.
Maybe I was just used to slow modern era gameplay from civ3? Maybe a whole new generation of civers are around who expect the game to be blazing fast.
Maybe people need to remove all the crap running in the system background, defrag their hd, and remove some spyware.
Who knows. I've been playing civ since the 1st version and would rate this one better than 3. Two was great, but I feel that 4 could surpass once the mods/scenarios start rolling out. One was great.
Desert-Fox said:
ruiner said:
I have a P4 1.6, 768megs 133 RAM, ATI 256meg 9550 Graphics and SB 5.1 original. I run eveything on Full except Anti-Aliasing(just doesn't add that much perfection to this type of game, and slows it down considerably). My Mobo is a 2001 model with only AGP4X (G-card can render at 8X). The game was originally running with a 128meg graphics from NVidia but I bought a new one to accomodate this game and it worked fine.
I think the Ram and G-Card are the most usful to replace, that coupled with my constant attention to details like defraging both the HD and Registry, and I do not compress the files on Drive C where the game is as they would have to be uncomperessed to run everytime, thereby just adding more time to an already problematic software/hardware combo.
Have you tried the higher settings? Do you defrag with Windows Defrager or use a 3rd party program like Norton Utilities comes with (I use Nortons)? I also use the program called "Registry Mechanic". It lets you compact your registry and really clean it out of unwanted older entries that slow the registry's use up considerably.
I do feel for the majority of you with problems running this software and wish it was different, but I suppose this will all come out for the best with Firaxis attempting to fix things. I must admit the 1.52 patch did some good for the movies being even faster but there were other issues that came up after installing it.
You really arched up about that comment, didn't you! Cool it. Is it really so bad that a non-official moderator does a small piece of moderating? It's not like he's going to ban you or anything like that. I think it's good that some people have an interest in keeping the forums clean, effecient, and spam free. They don't need to be moderators to give wise advice.
Graadiapolistan
Gradiapolistan
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1) for me the graohics annoy me. I don't know why, but I can't tell what's going on or where my borders are. Diplomacy also doesn't really make sense, I have never seen a civ that would actually switch religions, and it doesn't make a difference because their cities don't actually change religion if they convert.
2) I thought that there could be a lot of really great features put in this game that were left out. I hate the reiligion system you can't wipe out religions and stuff and the way that religion spreads doesn't make sense. I was hoping that you could make your own religion...not because people might get angry if christian germany attacked a jewish civ in one game, but because it would be really cool to design your own religion that would grow and change, and that way the religions could be different. One could be warlike, one industrious, etc. I guess I was just dissapointed so much was left out. And you can't access the map editor from the main screen! only in a game. Grrrr
3)The game got more streamlined. It got shorter and more like an rts. You could play more games in a shorter amount of time. It kept it's civ characteristics, but it did "rts-ize" itself. Personally I didn't like this. I liked the long drawn out games of civ3. But that's just my opinion.
-I play civ4, but I think it lost some of the "Umph" of civ3. But the civics system is cool, but i wish you had the option of making the game more detailed. So people who didn't want to have a more detailed game they could, but didn't have to if they didn't want to.
2) I thought that there could be a lot of really great features put in this game that were left out. I hate the reiligion system you can't wipe out religions and stuff and the way that religion spreads doesn't make sense. I was hoping that you could make your own religion...not because people might get angry if christian germany attacked a jewish civ in one game, but because it would be really cool to design your own religion that would grow and change, and that way the religions could be different. One could be warlike, one industrious, etc. I guess I was just dissapointed so much was left out. And you can't access the map editor from the main screen! only in a game. Grrrr
3)The game got more streamlined. It got shorter and more like an rts. You could play more games in a shorter amount of time. It kept it's civ characteristics, but it did "rts-ize" itself. Personally I didn't like this. I liked the long drawn out games of civ3. But that's just my opinion.
-I play civ4, but I think it lost some of the "Umph" of civ3. But the civics system is cool, but i wish you had the option of making the game more detailed. So people who didn't want to have a more detailed game they could, but didn't have to if they didn't want to.
logical_psycho
Prince
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It is the same reason why Counterstrike gamers return to play the old version, even though CS:Source is out. They don't want something like their previous game, or an improved version of what they like, because they want the old game... nothing else. It is what they know, they are good to it and don't want to learn playing a new version.
Well its growing on me, ive even grown to like the graphics. I was a c3c fanatic and still think c3c is awesome
There are things i miss (trading luxuries for tech, advisors) and the tech tree seems a bit too vast: maybee it will be less confusing as i play more. But i do like the game, ive played 6 hours today lol..to the disgust of the wife.
The world seems smaller somehow though?.
Pace: Seems ok but im playing epic.
System drain: Well im on a sucky machine large map and im fine in modern era (xp2600, 768 ram, 9200se card settings medium)..no problems at all so i guess those with slowdown are unlucky.
There are things i miss (trading luxuries for tech, advisors) and the tech tree seems a bit too vast: maybee it will be less confusing as i play more. But i do like the game, ive played 6 hours today lol..to the disgust of the wife.
The world seems smaller somehow though?.
Pace: Seems ok but im playing epic.
System drain: Well im on a sucky machine large map and im fine in modern era (xp2600, 768 ram, 9200se card settings medium)..no problems at all so i guess those with slowdown are unlucky.
