Wonders' effects in real life

bode404

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*This was inspired by Stupid things made in real life*

It's pretty clear that the 3 Gorges Dam can provide your whole continent with electricity, the Colossus and G. Lighthouse improve your coastal commerce, the Pentagon makes your soldiers better, and a few others wonder effects.
However, where the game developers could find so many (apparently) unrelated abilities to the wonders?

The most obvious:
- Pyramids. The Egyptians had monarchy all the way!
- Kremlim, built long before any attempt on Universal Suffrage.
- Hermitage. It wasnt open for anyone to visit, was it?

And many others...

I cant see why the Cristo Redentor was such effect. Since it was built, we changed from Hereditary Rule to Representation peacefully - the Emperor agreed to leave. However, years later, we had Police State and many revolts, violent repression, until the adoption of Universal Suffrage.

Discuss
 
- As I mentioned in the other topic, Versailles does the exact opposite of it's real-life counterpart; acting as a second Forbidden Palace it reduces maintenance, whereas the real Versailles was a money pit of appalling proportions that lead in part to revolution in France.

- I can't fathom the connection between the Hagia Sophia and 50% faster workers. It seems to me like they wanted to add it but could never think of a good effect for it.

- I suppose the engineering required for the Hanging Gardens would improve water supply, but not so much as to justify the health bonus it gives. If anything, all those exotic plants brought to the garden and the associated insect life that might come with it should cause a bit of :yuck:

- This one is obvious, but the Great Wall didn't keep barbarians out, it kept them in and forced them to settle.

- I suppose America or China would LOVE it if the Internet was nothing but their own personal tech collecting network. Too bad it isn't..
 
- I suppose America or China would LOVE it if the Internet was nothing but their own personal tech collecting network. Too bad it isn't..

I dont think America would need the Civ-Internet too much.
 
I cant see why the Cristo Redentor was such effect. Since it was built, we changed from Hereditary Rule to Representation peacefully - the Emperor agreed to leave. However, years later, we had Police State and many revolts, violent repression, until the adoption of Universal Suffrage.

Discuss

Well Brasil has had many changes in 'civics', government, labor, religious, legal and even economic, without much revolt or anarchy. ;)

from representation to police state then to universal sufrage back to police state and now to universal sufrage again. Just to mention the government ones

The Vargas age had lots of changes, one after another - 1930, 1934, 1937, then 1945...

One can argue that the big statue was not the cause of so many peacefull changes, but still is something very brasillian. :D
 
Statue of Liberty should be:

Upon building this wonder, gift it to another civ. From this point onwards, that civ will hate you (-5 relations) inexplicably, but will come to your aid in future wars (as a defense pact).
 
UK specific wonders:

Stonehenge: Free road on all adjacent tiles
Scotland Yard: Free Pig resource in every city
 
I'd say the Stone Henge Wonder would give you the calender without needing any techs, and you can continue on from calendar.
 
I was joking about the free roads. In real life stonehenge is surrounded by motorways and there was even talk of tunneling a road underneath it.
 
- As I mentioned in the other topic, Versailles does the exact opposite of it's real-life counterpart; acting as a second Forbidden Palace it reduces maintenance, whereas the real Versailles was a money pit of appalling proportions that lead in part to revolution in France.

It wasn't Versailles that did that. In fact, Louis XIV built Versailles and France went through a golden age of sorts under his rule. :rolleyes:
 
Statue of Liberty should be:

Upon building this wonder, gift it to another civ. From this point onwards, that civ will hate you (-5 relations) inexplicably, but will come to your aid in future wars (as a defense pact).

Genius. Simply genius.
 
Well Brasil has had many changes in 'civics', government, labor, religious, legal and even economic, without much revolt or anarchy. ;)

from representation to police state then to universal sufrage back to police state and now to universal sufrage again. Just to mention the government ones

The Vargas age had lots of changes, one after another - 1930, 1934, 1937, then 1945...

One can argue that the big statue was not the cause of so many peacefull changes, but still is something very brasillian. :D

We didnt have "civic changes" for religion or labor. Free Religion and Emancipation (that is, no Slavery, no Serfdom and no Castes) were adopted before the construction of Cristo.

And I just thought of the religious wonders: do the Taoism followers leave big sums of money in the Dai Miao?
 
- As I mentioned in the other topic, Versailles does the exact opposite of it's real-life counterpart; acting as a second Forbidden Palace it reduces maintenance, whereas the real Versailles was a money pit of appalling proportions that lead in part to revolution in France.

- I can't fathom the connection between the Hagia Sophia and 50% faster workers. It seems to me like they wanted to add it but could never think of a good effect for it.

- I suppose the engineering required for the Hanging Gardens would improve water supply, but not so much as to justify the health bonus it gives. If anything, all those exotic plants brought to the garden and the associated insect life that might come with it should cause a bit of :yuck:

- This one is obvious, but the Great Wall didn't keep barbarians out, it kept them in and forced them to settle.

- I suppose America or China would LOVE it if the Internet was nothing but their own personal tech collecting network. Too bad it isn't..


From what I've read from the Civolepedia, the Great Wall did keep the barbarians out. Not because the barbarians couldn't get in, but because the Great Wall made it harder for the barbarians to pillage and take the spoils back over. So, in the end, it wasn't very worth it to the barbarians.:crazyeye:
 
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