Would you rather see Palmyra or Canda?

[AnonymousSpeed]

If Ed Beech and his posse came up to you and gave you the power to decide which civ you'd rather have in Civilization 6, with your choice automatically excluding the other for the rest of the game's life, which one would you pick and why?

 

[Zaarin]

Palmyra for three reasons:

• I don't want any more post-colonial nations. If we hadn't gotten stuck with Australia, sure, Canada wouldn't be so awful. But we do have Australia and the last thing the game needs right now is another Anglophone colony.
• Zenobia.
• It's the likeliest Aramaic state to get in the game, even if it only lasted three years.

 

[The Kingmaker]

Palmyra for three reasons:

• I don't want any more post-colonial nations. If we hadn't gotten stuck with Australia, sure, Canada wouldn't be so awful. But we do have Australia and the last thing the game needs right now is another Anglophone colony.
• Zenobia.
• It's the likeliest Aramaic state to get in the game, even if it only lasted three years.

Seconded.

 

[Greywulf]

Depends on what UX they both have.

 

[TahamiTsunami]

I'd like to see both (especially if Canada was lead by Samuel de Champlain) but I gotta give it to Zenobia and see what unique units Palmyra would have.

 

[The Kingmaker]

I'd like to see both (especially if Canada was lead by Samuel de Champlain) but I gotta give it to Zenobia and see what unique units Palmyra would have.

Almost certainly a dromedary spearman or archer--or both together? If memory serves, Trajan employed Palmyrene camel auxilia.

Could also do clibanarii heavy cavalry, I guess. Similar to a Byzantine cataphract.

 

[Greywulf]

If memory serves, Trajan employed Palmyrene camel auxilia.

Makes me wonder if they're considering Dacia.

 

[Naktis]

lol I actually just read Canda coz of typo and thought who are they some unknown tribe and after voting read its Canada , which I want them to be included so bad vote for me

But WE WANT BOTH option where ?!

 

[Siptah]

Not a big fan of both. Palmyra can be a part of another civ, and I‘d welcome that.

 

[Lord Lakely]

Neither, although Palmyra > Canada.

 

[conorbebe]

Why is Palmyra significant again? From what I can tell it's just part of the Roman Empire that broke away and lasted for a measly 3 years, in an area which is already overcrowded.

 

[halfhalfharp]

I support Palmyra. We rarely see a civ of the Levant region, while it is actually the birth place of religions like Judaism and Christian.

Why is Palmyra significant again? From what I can tell it's just part of the Roman Empire that broke away and lasted for a measly 3 years, in an area which is already overcrowded.

Palmyra empire was indeed a broken part of the Roman empire.

But the city of Palmyra itself had a much older history, first recorded in 2nd millennia BC. It was a Semitic kingdom before falling into Roman hands.

 

[The Kingmaker]

Just because the Palmyrene empire only lasted a few years doesn't mean we should discount their more lengthy history as an oligarchy and a kingdom.

Some many people count just Zenobia's reign and don't even consider her husband's before her...

 

[Nagato]

If Palmyrene empire that lasted 3 years can be a civ, then Gran Colombia that lasted 10 years can also.

My interest in both is the same, even though we are full of Anglophone colonies, I don't think Palmyra is so much better than Canada. It would be another civ designed by focusing on a leader, such as Macedon.

 

[The Kingmaker]

If Palmyrene empire that lasted 3 years can be a civ, then Gran Colombia that lasted 10 years can also.

My interest in both is the same, even though we are full of Anglophone colonies, I don't think Palmyra is so much better than Canada. It would be another civ designed by focusing on a leader, such as Macedon.

I'm getting tired of repeating that Palmyra lasted for longer than three years. Odenathus was lord of Palmyra for around 20 yrs, and then King for 7 (260-267). Zenobia's rule as Queen Regent was 267-272, which last I checked is 5-6 years.

 

[halfhalfharp]

It would be another civ designed by focusing on a leader, such as Macedon.

I can't see why it hurts by focusing a leader, as long as the civ is worthy of mention and the leader really gives it a shine.

The same case happens to Mongol (Genghis Khan), Brazil (Pedro II), but no one argues about it.

(though I must claim that I am not supporting Alexander as a good choice.)

 

[Zaarin]

Makes me wonder if they're considering Dacia.

The Dacian language is attested only in a few words and personal names. Even that it's Indo-European is an assumption.

Why is Palmyra significant again? From what I can tell it's just part of the Roman Empire that broke away and lasted for a measly 3 years, in an area which is already overcrowded.

I posted this in another thread, and I'll repeat it here. Aramaic city-states have been extremely important in the region for centuries, but are difficult to attach a leader to. Zenobia is an extremely compelling leader but is hard to attach to a civ. The best solution is to call her civ Aram, which isn't inaccurate and stones two bushes with dead birds: gives us a deserving civ without a leader and a deserving leader without a civ.

 

[Greywulf]

The Dacian language is attested only in a few words and personal names. Even that it's Indo-European is an assumption.

Yeah, they might have to resort to using modern Romanian.

 

[The Kingmaker]

I posted this in another thread, and I'll repeat it here. Aramaic city-states have been extremely important in the region for centuries, but are difficult to attach a leader to. Zenobia is an extremely compelling leader but is hard to attach to a civ. The best solution is to call her civ Aram, which isn't inaccurate and stones two bushes with dead birds: gives us a deserving civ without a leader and a deserving leader without a civ.

Whatever it takes to get them in. I wouldn't even be surprised if they resorted to calling it "Syria" since that's the most recognizable name for the region.

Though they could still just call it Palmyra... It made it into Age of Empires like that, after all.

At the very least, Palmyra should be Zenobia's capital.

 

[halfhalfharp]

. Zenobia is an extremely compelling leader but is hard to attach to a civ. The best solution is to call her civ Aram, which isn't inaccurate and stones two bushes with dead birds: gives us a deserving civ without a leader and a deserving leader without a civ.

Indeed, I find it challenging in sorting a civ for her and also feel the same in sorting a representative for the region. Why shouldn't we blurr the details? lol

Tomyris is already here anyway.