Wow, Darius I = Mr. Money Machine

[Dairuka]

That is a great picture. And about the 30 vs 1 empire thing. Maybe that is saying that they were not the greatest empires after all if they could fall so easily. It was an earth-shattering thing when the Roman empire collapsed (as well as the Persians) but some of those other ones weren't as big of a deal.

Many euro-centric historians also believed that the supposed 'collapse' of the roman empire had more of an effect on the world's outcome than any other empire's demise; but I digress. The Roman Empire never collapsed, it declined. Rome was occupied, and as a result the empire evolved to suit the times. It never officially collapsed until 1453, and by then it had already declined to a point where it was no longer important.

The whole notion of a 'Byzantine' empire boggles the mind really.

The Dark Ages were well into effect, long before the occupation of Rome.

If anything, the fall of the Frankish and/or Holy Roman Empire had more of an resounding earth-shattering boom than anything. It fractured the world into hundreds of city-states, which led to the advent of vassalage for protection.

 

[gregh87]

I just played as Darius; he's pretty awesome! I took control of my entire 4 civilization continent (standard size, hemispheres map), which is over 20 cities, with the science slider at 80%! 2000+ beakers per turn at 1700 A.D.! I haven't played with an organized leader in a while, but I'm really liking those cheap courthouses and factories for domination victories. The apothecary was pretty great for me too; with my resources it gave me +5 health!

 

[koolrosh]

Beside that, the Greeks had a lot of slaves, no arguing about that, but there were free men, while in Persian every man and his mom was a slave to the Emperor, but I'm sure you didnt know about that, and it shows. Or worse you think we dont.

I don't know where you get your information, but in Persia every man and woman was EQUALLY paid for the same work and people were FREE to choose or keep their own religion. Cyrus the Great even wrote the world's first known charter of human rights.

Rome was a way better empire than any of the "Persian" empires ever were

I don't know why you despise he Persian Empires so much, but i'll tell you this: The persian people were the only people that Romans saw as equals and the Sassanid empire was the only empire that the Romans wanted to invade and were unsuccessful in doing so.

I love history and I respect all the big names in history especially the Roman empire and i am not bringing any other culture down, but i cannot stand when someone undermines a great empire.

I don't know why people keep bringing ayatollahs in this thread, we are talking about history and not modern politics.

 

[DrewTate]

If you read back to my previous posts, I was in no way undermining the greatness of any of the Persian empires.

He wasn't talking about religion. All the Persians were considered slaves to the God King and all that crap.

 

[koolrosh]

If you read back to my previous posts, I was in no way undermining the greatness of any of the Persian empires.

He wasn't talking about religion. All the Persians were considered slaves to the God King and all that crap.

I think you have to review your definition of the word Slave.

None of the kings ever tought they were God and the citizens were not slaves ( since they were all paid for their work and were living in the richest empire at the time ).
Persians were Zoroastrian at the time which means that they believed in God ( that there is no other god than God), so what you're saying goes against their religion at the time.

 

[DrewTate]

I did start a game with Darius and he is good for that scrilla. But his UU sucks I didn't have any horses and I couldn't build them. If they had the civ 3 UU (swordsmen) then Persia would be untouchable under Darius.

Question: Do you pronounce Darius like:

1) Dare-ee-us
2) Duh-rye-us

I have heard both versions on the History Channel.

 

[paintchip]

I believe it is #1) Dare-ee-us, but like you said people pronounce it differently. Its like the word Tomato