Get the Rev. B patch (Vanilla)! And Warlords 2.08 patch!

narmox · Jan 25, 2007

Josh Wolf said:
Crashes upon the initial screen (after loading files) on Macbook 2Ghz, 10.4.8. Anyone else?

Same macbook, same OS X (including all the most recent updates), just installed Warlords 2.08, loads files etc, screen goes blank and then I get the "this application has quit unexpectedly" dialog.

:cry:

Removing my ~/Documents/Civilization IV Warlords folder didn't help...

AlanH · Jan 25, 2007

What does the crash report say? Click 'Send to Apple' in the crash dialog and look at the text you get. You don't have to send it to Apple, but Aspyr might like a copy. If you paste the first part of it here, you *might* get some clues.

narmox · Jan 25, 2007

Here's the full text of the crash report:

Spoiler :

AlanH · Jan 25, 2007

It's obviously a graphics system crash. It looks like the MacBook's (unsupported) integrated graphics chip has been left out of the testing.

Do you get the same with Civ4 vanilla?

napoleonbee · Jan 25, 2007

Just installed the patch. When great people are born to cities owned by leaders I know, the chat log says "Michaelangelo has been born in U (R)!" instead of Uppsala and Ragnar. Is there any way to fix this?

WillSquared · Jan 25, 2007

Just installed the patch. I created a gamespy account at gamespyid.com, and verified my email address.

However, I cannot log into gamespy. When I hit login, the clouds just pause for a second.

Is this perhaps because I am using this from a school network?

dojoboy · Jan 25, 2007

WillSquared said:
Just installed the patch. I created a gamespy account at gamespyid.com, and verified my email address.

However, I cannot log into gamespy. When I hit login, the clouds just pause for a second.

Is this perhaps because I am using this from a school network?

Could be, but I would think gamespyid.com would've been blocked as well. Or, there are no open ports from the school.

WillSquared · Jan 25, 2007

Er, college network actually, so it's not that it's blocked.

No open ports sounds like it could be the problem... the college makes you register your MAC address to play on XBox Live, so might I have to do something similar for cIV?

JoAT · Jan 25, 2007

narmox said:
Here's the full text of the crash report:

Why does your crash report say version 2.00? Are you sure the patch installed properly?

JoAT

iamliberal · Jan 25, 2007

napoleonbee said:
Just installed the patch. When great people are born to cities owned by leaders I know, the chat log says "Michaelangelo has been born in U (R)!" instead of Uppsala and Ragnar. Is there any way to fix this?

I have 24" imac latest Os x, after downloading 2.08 patch I get same types of messages with those announcesments, like "Great leader born in U(2)" or something.

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I played about 5 hours last night, and the game crashed to desktop twice. I sent error to Apple, did not copy and paste it first.

Sometimes, my Great Wall casuses weird graphics glitches, flashing really fast; restarting seemed to resolve it every time.

Cougarcat · Jan 26, 2007

Aside from Gamespy and perhaps a slight speed increase, this patch is anti-good. Seems to have brought all the bugs from the initial release. (The speed increase might be my brain seeing something it wants to see rather than what is there).

*No sounds except ambient stuff. Not even Nimoy's narration.
*The globe view is broken again. Messed up textures. At one point my globe featured the texture of the top right corner. Weird.

The above issues are in Warlords. In vanilla, I can't even get a game to launch. It crashes at "setup players". Powerbook 1.67, 10.4.8.

Here's a crashlog:

Spoiler :

Normally I wouldn't care about getting vanilla working, but I was planning to play a multiplayer game in the near future with some people who don't have warlords yet..

Hyper Nova · Jan 26, 2007

Hi this is my first actual post, been reading the forums here for a long time. So Hi everyone.

Anyway the reason why i am posting is because this thread seem to intrigue me the most.
Becasue as after patching to the Civ IV Warlord Rev A patch i also noticed that when great people are born the message says "Great leader born in X (Y)"

I was also still noticing that the ice at the polls was still turning black after extened periods of play.

It doesnt seem like anyone has any suggestion for the great leader messages so I was just posting to at least show that its not just a couple of people.

Just one other thing i noticed that when you get info on the Warlords app in the finder it says version 2.00 still but in the actual game under the build section it actually say 208 or somthing like that which would suggest its is indead the right patch I assume its just the way the patch is done right? And that would make sense to the reason why the guy that posted his crash report said 2.00. instead of 2.0.8.

So just checking to make sure everyhting seemed ok.

Have just done CIV (vanilla) REV B patch as well but havent played it so can't report any bugs with that yet.

- Using a 1st Gen 17 inch Macbook Pro with 1 GB Ram just for info purposes
I know these forums arn't official but does seem to be a great source of actulaly getting answers and workarounds. Thanks for any infomation

Skippy_Kangaroo · Jan 26, 2007

Just experienced a crash in a fully patched Rev. B vanilla. It seemed to involve Core Audio so I sent a copy to Brad and Apple. So all the bugs aren't ironed out even for fully supported computers (MacBook Pro in my case).

But I've been running it using anti-aliasing and full screen and haven't had a kernel panic yet. Fingers crossed this means that they have at least improved the stability and dealt with the really nasty lockups.

Update: It crashed again in pretty much the same way. The thread that crashed was an audio related one that had some mention of Core Audio in it. I seem to recall that these were the sort of crashes I was getting in earlier versions of Civ as well.

AlanH · Jan 26, 2007

There's no build number in the Warlords Get Info, though there is in Civ4 vanilla (17139). I suspect some housekeeping was forgotten when it was released.

Both of the patch disk images include a 'buildnotes.rtf' file that appears to be an internal document. It gives a number which, in the case of the Civ4 patch, matches the above Get Info build number. So it looks as though Warlords may now be at build 17987. Its final build date was 23 January according to the buildnotes, which was just the day before it was published. Not much time for final QA :hmm:

Skippy_Kangaroo · Jan 26, 2007

For those of you who are wondering about performance improvements....

I suspect that there may be something real to it rather than being something in your imagination. I checked it out and it is now multithreaded in a way it didn't seem to be before. It is averaging about 140% and 8 threads on my machine. So those of you with dual core (or better) machines may notice some speed improvement. As I understand it, previously all the graphics were done on one core in one thread and some audio work was put in another thread leading to it peaking around 105%. My guess is that it is now distributing some of the heavy work across both cores and giving some sort of performance improvement as a result.

Gatekeeper · Jan 26, 2007

Heh. Well, I just purchased the Warlords XP for Mac ... and, judging from what I've seen in this thread, I'll hold off on patching it and vanilla Civ IV for the timebeing.

No big deal for me. It's been months since I last played Civ IV, so I need some time to reacquaint myself with it. For starters, I've already copied a vanilla WBSave (Europe) and altered the map's suffix so it'll run properly in Warlords. Now I need to generate a 24-civ Warlords map, go into it with TextEdit and, using information from the aforementioned map, modify the copied Europe map accordingly so there are more civilizations (properly placed, too!) to play with. Carthage, the Vikings, the Celts ... oh, yeah!

Gatekeeper

AlanH · Jan 26, 2007

Skippy_Kangaroo said:
For those of you who are wondering about performance improvements....

I suspect that there may be something real to it rather than being something in your imagination. I checked it out and it is now multithreaded in a way it didn't seem to be before. It is averaging about 140% and 8 threads on my machine. So those of you with dual core (or better) machines may notice some speed improvement. As I understand it, previously all the graphics were done on one core in one thread and some audio work was put in another thread leading to it peaking around 105%. My guess is that it is now distributing some of the heavy work across both cores and giving some sort of performance improvement as a result.

That's interesting. On my Mac Pro I can't see any significant difference. It still uses less than 100% of one core most of the time.

Is that Warlords or vanilla, and at what stage in the game? My old Civ4 crash logs show that it always did have 7 or 8 threads running when it went down. Most of them were just watchers with little activity. I also have a few old Warlords crash logs. They never showed more than 5 threads running.

Warlords at 4000 BC, huge map, the game only uses about 70-80% total CPU. It does have eight threads now, but I suspect that just brings it up to the same thread architecture that Civ4 always had.

The Civ4 benchmark that was published hereabouts recently manages to push the CPU up to about 130% if I zoom in and out furiously, but it's still very laggy doing that, and worse if I don't disable city details in globe view. It shows 9 threads running.

So, while the thread structure does seem to have changed - more so on Warlords than on Civ4, I don't see any significant improvements in distribution of workload on my 4-core system as a result.

JoAT · Jan 26, 2007

AlanH said:
Both of the patch disk images include a 'buildnotes.rtf' file that appears to be an internal document. It gives a number which, in the case of the Civ4 patch, matches the above Get Info build number. So it looks as though Warlords may now be at build 17987. Its final build date was 23 January according to the buildnotes, which was just the day before it was published. Not much time for final QA

I noticed this too. This does not seem to be a very typical patch release. Perhaps there was some sort of human error over at Aspyr in putting this out... :dunno:

JoAT

lateralis · Jan 26, 2007

so does anyone know if anything changes besides the app? the installer (of course) doesn't know that warlords is installed on another volume and I'm not sure if I need to copy everything for both games back over again twice just to get this updated.

AlanH · Jan 26, 2007

Check the modified dates on the files and folders. Warlords had lots of updates throughout the game data files as well as the app itself. Not surprising really, as the game was extensively revised in version 2.08.

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