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I think the Australian pricing issue deserves its own thread. We're being gouged more than anyone else, by an obscene margin, and currency issues don't even factor in - Steam charges us in US dollars. And my thread was asking the publishers to address the issue specifically. Moderators, please...

I would love to buy Civilization V, even on Steam. I've bought every previous version of this franchise, including on the consoles. But I'm not a sucker. I will not be completely and utterly gouged. The Steam store is demanding 80 US dollars for Civ V, compared with 50 US dollars to American...

Exactly. This. 2K doesn't deserve a single Australian sale while this garbage exists. 60% markup on a digital product indeed. Get stuffed.

The Australian Steam price for Civ 5 is a flat-out insult. It's not even as if it's in our currency - it's 80 US Dollars compared with 50 from the US store. A 60% markup FOR NOTHING! Whoever 2K's local distributors are, they couldn't have shown how much they're gouging us, what utter useless...

Civ4 complete on steam (inc colonization) is $US 10 this weekend. Considering downloading it and selling my DVD copies, so I don't have to run nodvd cracks any more.

It seems to be being pushed back in Australia, too.

I don't get the inability to zoom in and out on these new console versions. Civ is a game about taking over the damn world - LET US SEE IT! Please!

I wish they'd finally make the damn thing DVD-independent. I'm not carrying DVDs around with my laptop, which means that until someone releases a no-cd for this version I'm stuck with the last patch. Come on, Firaxis, other companies can treat their customers with respect. DVD copy protection...

OzLefty76.

what type of mobile phone? who's it by? (doesn't it say in the help on the game who made it?)

Has anyone spoken to the licensees to see if they're considering it? Or to the Firaxis team?

I've seen the version of Civ 2 they did for the Ngage - I'd enjoy playing that on my symbian phone if they'd do the fairly basic conversion necessary to port it across (from one symbian version to another).

I know that they did a mobile version of Civ 1 for one of the early bulky Nokia handsets (the Nokia 9200 Communicator or something) and that they did a version of Civ 2 for the NGage - but are there any plans on porting Civ to any modern mobiles? Looking at the screenshots for the Ngage version...

Yeah, I've long since lost my original Civ 2 CD. I still have my Civ2 Multiplayer CD (they never released MGE here), but it doesn't have the music. I was trying to find the soundtrack online so I could put it on my mp3 player - anyone know where I could find it? (Hopefully this doesn't violate...

I have the same problem (a compax nx9010 with the mobility radeon). When I ran the compatibility test on Gamespy it failed because the card doesn't have hardware T&L. Would explain why everything's dark, at least. Sounds to me like the only way we're going to be able to run the game is if...

Well, if I post just an ordinary start savegame for vanilla SMAC, would that be sufficient for people to join in? Vanilla SMAC Large world Librarian Zakharov of the University Here 'tis! At what point should we first stop to describe our progress? 2300?

Yeah, but then all the cities I'd taken would probably have culture-flipped. ;-) (Rage on ABC was just playing a video clip of Kermit singing The Rainbow Connection! Freaky.)

I agree with scoutsout. I'm happy with culture flipping on the borders of civs in peacetime, but during a war of conquest when you've just taken a city and a huge number of units are garrisoned in it, the chance of it flipping should be zero. If anything, the citizens of that civ should be angry...

I agree re a conquered city culture flipping during war. I utterly hate that aspect of Civ3. It is completely non-intuitive, and doesn't fit real war at all. You take a city and use its resources: you don't raze it and build your own from scratch instead. And I missed the damn hand-in date...

I've lost my original Civ2 CD (I think a friend pinched it, come to think of it), and was watching a doco on the hoover dam tonight and thinking I'd quite like to watch the old Civ2 wonder movies again. I loved some of those. Anyone know where they can be downloaded? I've got TOT somewhere but...