Victory_Bear
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Current v1.13 Development Discussion
- Thread starter Leoreth
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New commit:
- moved stone in the Altiplano to a tile next to Tiwanaku
- new third Maya UHV goal: make contact with a European civilization before they discover America
To clarify the new Mayan goal: the first European civilization decides the outcome. If they have revealed on tile in the Americas, you lose. Otherwise you win the goal.
Technically that means that someone can discover America, but as long as you avoid them you can still sail to Europe to make contact with someone else and win the goal. But that seems unlikely enough that I will leave it like this.
- moved stone in the Altiplano to a tile next to Tiwanaku
- new third Maya UHV goal: make contact with a European civilization before they discover America
To clarify the new Mayan goal: the first European civilization decides the outcome. If they have revealed on tile in the Americas, you lose. Otherwise you win the goal.
Technically that means that someone can discover America, but as long as you avoid them you can still sail to Europe to make contact with someone else and win the goal. But that seems unlikely enough that I will leave it like this.
That's too easy: found Vinland, build culture, found Iceland, build culture, then you reach Scotland and Europe. Just reverse Viking UHV, and you have plenty of time.
Victory_Bear
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Can you reach Vinland? I thought there were capes and marshes blocking you from getting there (or is that only from Europe to the Americas)?
I think of instead of Astronomy you need to research Optics after you win the 2nd goal
TheNoob
Dank Memes
In all seriousness though, that is a cool idea for a UHV
need my speed
Rex Omnium Imperarium
So what was the last commit ('this one is for youtien')? If I'm reading this right, you added ice if the human player is the Vikings, presumably so that Vinland can't be founded? Or is it the exact opposite, because you add it in the maps and have a '-1' in the resources file ('-1' looks like a logical removal number)?
Walk, my friend, Mayan settler can walk from home to there. Well, you still have to chop a galley and some culture buildings. So I am honored to let Leoreth to block all possible abnormal way..
Shadow Warlord
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So we need to rely on units to maintain contact now or is there a point where permanent contact is established with all civs?
Royal Tenenbaum
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Can you add in embassy random events? I'd say the attacks on all those Danish embassies was historically significant.
But until electricity, units are the only way to maintain contact? Would it be possible to make it so that you also remain in contact with them if you have a defensive pact or you are trading resources or something like that, to make civs with close diplomatic/trade relations able to remain in touch without units stationed in each others' territory?
ezzlar
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Ah. Good changes. But wouldnt Astronomy be enough for permanent contact? It was during this age the whole world became known. And if permanent contact wasnt enabled, how could the western powers maintain colony adminstration? In practice, all civs with Galleons and onward can easily contact the rest of the world. Electricity more symbolizes instant contact.
ales_
Heir
So, when one discovers Electricity, they will never loose contact with anyone, right?
merijn_v1
Black Belt
Does this mean new buildings can be added without changing the DLL?
Tigranes
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He might be talking about this, but admittedly it was rather random reference...
Establishing embassies was important part in the life of any ruler. Russians, for example, were trying to establish one in China for many years. We have so few non-combat units, why can't we have envoys who can travel criss-cross all over the map establishing embassies and giving a feeling that war is not the only way nations interact?
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