Modeltrainman
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How's the mod coming?
Mod Idea: The Wild West
- Thread starter cfkane
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Flintlock1415
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Well, honestly I haven't made any updates to it for about 6 weeks now. 
I just got out of school, so I should have more time to mod, but recently I've been getting into more programming in Objective-C/Cocoa and playing around with the Blender game engine.
I've finally got a bit of time opened up, and as the summer goes on I'll get even more until school starts again. I guess we'll just have to see if I feel more like modding Civ or programming. (It would also help a lot if more people were interesting in modding Col...)
Just a quick idea here, but what do you guys think would work better; keep this for Col or transplant what I have to BTS (assuming I get it running?) It would work nicely for the railroads, and there would be a much larger fanbase.
I just got out of school, so I should have more time to mod, but recently I've been getting into more programming in Objective-C/Cocoa and playing around with the Blender game engine.I've finally got a bit of time opened up, and as the summer goes on I'll get even more until school starts again. I guess we'll just have to see if I feel more like modding Civ or programming. (It would also help a lot if more people were interesting in modding Col...)
Just a quick idea here, but what do you guys think would work better; keep this for Col or transplant what I have to BTS (assuming I get it running?) It would work nicely for the railroads, and there would be a much larger fanbase.
Please stay with colonization! The game mechanics will work much better and make the game far more interesting. You'll be able to get a fanbase. As far as the mod, I'd like to help, unfortunately I doubt there's really all that much I could do. However, I can give you some ideas.
St. Louis as a home port is a good idea, just make a fairly arbitrary city surrounded by Europe tiles, "Europe" of course being the United States. As far as getting to the home city, Wagon trains and railroads have already been brought up, and are good ideas (it would especially assist the western feel if bandits on the way home were a threat). You could also have navigable rivers ala the Chinese Unification warlords scenario and use river barges. I know that to have rivers all the way out west doesn't work for everything, but rivers would be a help if players build cities along the rivers, then wagon-train supplies to the riverain cities and send them back to the home port that way.
As for your forth civ, I would recommend Cascadia or the Republic of the Pacific, both the same state, just different names. The names refer to an idea of a republic formed from northern california, oregon, washington, and british columbia. Yes, I'll admit it's somewhat fanciful, but this whole mod will wind up being that way. The idea is atleast well grounded, and meshes well with your other states As far as leaders, there's always George Abernathy, first governor of oregon's provisional government, John Mcloughlin, head of a prominent fur company at fort vancouver who advocated for an independent state, and the co-founders of portland, Asa Lovejoy and Francis Pettygrove.
Personally for the above leader choice I would like to see George Abernathy and Asa Lovejoy(Lovejoy was more politically prominent than Abernathy, despite losing a coin toss to name portland)
Here's a flag too. http://republic-of-cascadia.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/doug_flag_flat3.jpg
I have a bunch of western music you could use, however, I'm not sure about whether or not it would be okay to use it. the fellows at the ancient mediterranean mod have used images and music from some recent movies, and there's plenty of other similar cases, so if it's not a problem I could email you some music!
As far as the mexico situation, I think it would best as a tribe. That way they'd allow a the first city to be founded (like the texas settlers), but more land would anger them, you'd have to pay, and eventually fight them. Sending your units to mexican cities to Learn professions also works. The only problem I can see with making them a tribe is establishing missions and getting presents form the chief (i.e treasure). I don't know, perhaps they'd also work as a fifth civ that's just on the map.
In the future, perhaps the Canadian west could be included?
I'll also see about getting together some citylists and founding fathers for you.
I'll help however I can, I'd love to see this, and I think it has great potential, as a Nevadan I endorse this mod!
St. Louis as a home port is a good idea, just make a fairly arbitrary city surrounded by Europe tiles, "Europe" of course being the United States. As far as getting to the home city, Wagon trains and railroads have already been brought up, and are good ideas (it would especially assist the western feel if bandits on the way home were a threat). You could also have navigable rivers ala the Chinese Unification warlords scenario and use river barges. I know that to have rivers all the way out west doesn't work for everything, but rivers would be a help if players build cities along the rivers, then wagon-train supplies to the riverain cities and send them back to the home port that way.
As for your forth civ, I would recommend Cascadia or the Republic of the Pacific, both the same state, just different names. The names refer to an idea of a republic formed from northern california, oregon, washington, and british columbia. Yes, I'll admit it's somewhat fanciful, but this whole mod will wind up being that way. The idea is atleast well grounded, and meshes well with your other states As far as leaders, there's always George Abernathy, first governor of oregon's provisional government, John Mcloughlin, head of a prominent fur company at fort vancouver who advocated for an independent state, and the co-founders of portland, Asa Lovejoy and Francis Pettygrove.
Personally for the above leader choice I would like to see George Abernathy and Asa Lovejoy(Lovejoy was more politically prominent than Abernathy, despite losing a coin toss to name portland)
Here's a flag too. http://republic-of-cascadia.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/doug_flag_flat3.jpg
I have a bunch of western music you could use, however, I'm not sure about whether or not it would be okay to use it. the fellows at the ancient mediterranean mod have used images and music from some recent movies, and there's plenty of other similar cases, so if it's not a problem I could email you some music!
As far as the mexico situation, I think it would best as a tribe. That way they'd allow a the first city to be founded (like the texas settlers), but more land would anger them, you'd have to pay, and eventually fight them. Sending your units to mexican cities to Learn professions also works. The only problem I can see with making them a tribe is establishing missions and getting presents form the chief (i.e treasure). I don't know, perhaps they'd also work as a fifth civ that's just on the map.
In the future, perhaps the Canadian west could be included?
I'll also see about getting together some citylists and founding fathers for you.
I'll help however I can, I'd love to see this, and I think it has great potential, as a Nevadan I endorse this mod!
That I did! Texas Fixed!. I'm working on some founding fathers as well as leader traits. I might actually take up XML editing for this mod, I'd love to help out!
Here's the founding fathers ideas I have so far (it's late, I'll try to crack out 52+ ideas though)
John Coffee Hays- +25% Great General Emergence, Free promotion Skirmisher I, Minuteman I for gunpowder and Mounted Units
Jedidiah Smith- Free Promotion Mountaineer I, Mountaineer 2 for gunpowder units
John William Mackay- +50% Silver per settlement
James Marshall- +25% gold per settlement
Samuel Clemens- +3 bells per printing press and colonist
Bartleston-Bidwell Party- Gives 1 Wagon and 1 Free Colonist(Homesteader?)
Here are some I'll be trying to work in
Pierre-Jean De Smets, Helped map indian territories, probably +25% cheaper purchases? Maybe revealing all sioux settlements or something? Similar to Sepulveda.
Theodore Judah- Something to do with trains. Cheaper Railroad costs
Liver-Eating Johnson- +50% pillaging, maybe free promotion for combat bonus against natives? Man deserves to be in this mod if you ask me.
EDIT: well, I'm more well rested, I can be of help to this mod, I've started working with the XML to produce leaders, traits, and colonies. It won't have any new artwork, just working on the mechanics first. Not worried about the art though, CFKane, the mod is you're idea and you're also good with leader-heads. I'll be using your brigham young LH for the moment for, brigham young.
Here's the founding fathers ideas I have so far (it's late, I'll try to crack out 52+ ideas though)
John Coffee Hays- +25% Great General Emergence, Free promotion Skirmisher I, Minuteman I for gunpowder and Mounted Units
Jedidiah Smith- Free Promotion Mountaineer I, Mountaineer 2 for gunpowder units
John William Mackay- +50% Silver per settlement
James Marshall- +25% gold per settlement
Samuel Clemens- +3 bells per printing press and colonist
Bartleston-Bidwell Party- Gives 1 Wagon and 1 Free Colonist(Homesteader?)
Here are some I'll be trying to work in
Pierre-Jean De Smets, Helped map indian territories, probably +25% cheaper purchases? Maybe revealing all sioux settlements or something? Similar to Sepulveda.
Theodore Judah- Something to do with trains. Cheaper Railroad costs
Liver-Eating Johnson- +50% pillaging, maybe free promotion for combat bonus against natives? Man deserves to be in this mod if you ask me.
EDIT: well, I'm more well rested, I can be of help to this mod, I've started working with the XML to produce leaders, traits, and colonies. It won't have any new artwork, just working on the mechanics first. Not worried about the art though, CFKane, the mod is you're idea and you're also good with leader-heads. I'll be using your brigham young LH for the moment for, brigham young.
Flintlock1415
Emperor
Wow! This is some damn good work!
I think I should start back in on this mod again, though how soon I don't know. The city list is especially useful, thanks! I think maybe if I finished off the civs (esp. tribes), get my Houston lh done, and figure out the railroads, I could get a rough beta out pretty quick. Then we could work on the mod together.
I'm really interested in the idea of Cascadia. I have Oregon in right now, but it would be a simple switch as Cascadia seems to be near the same just expanded a ways.
thank you for kicking my ass back into modding!
I think I should start back in on this mod again, though how soon I don't know. The city list is especially useful, thanks! I think maybe if I finished off the civs (esp. tribes), get my Houston lh done, and figure out the railroads, I could get a rough beta out pretty quick. Then we could work on the mod together.
I'm really interested in the idea of Cascadia. I have Oregon in right now, but it would be a simple switch as Cascadia seems to be near the same just expanded a ways.
thank you for kicking my ass back into modding!
Modeltrainman
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Flintlock, if you want, I'll try to help with the XML.
Huayna Capac357
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UPDATED POWERS
Cascadia- Britain or Canada
California- United States
Deseret- Spain (they went to Spain to colonize, not US, and it would free up the US for the Bear Flag Republic)
Texas- Mexico
cfkane
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We talked about that, and at the moment programming all factions to have the same parent is a bit too complicated.
Unless there's another Colonization mod that creates a single King for all nations, this won't likely happen
kaibayashi
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Check the Australia mod, they all have the same Queen... think that's Piman's work, tho i may be wrong (again!) 
Huayna Capac357
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Because Texas wasn't revolting from the US, when the Mormons went to Utah it was still part of Spain, and we didn't own Oregon until 1846.
Modeltrainman
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Is this coming along, or has it stalled?
Flintlock1415
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Yea, its stalled. I was planning on working on it a bit before, but I got really sidetracked with trying to learn how to program. Its really getting interesting and I don't plan on starting in again anytime soon. I might come back if I get the urge, but for now I'm going to learn to program and maybe start making my own games.
I'll post what I have now on tuesday, if anyone wants to take the project over. the things that I can think of that need to be done are: fix the railroads, add Cfkane's Brigham Young, add the city names, and change Oregon to Cascadia. (Yeah, I've been lazy, I know.)
If you're interested in taking over, let me know (although I'll likely still put it up regardless.)
I'll post what I have now on tuesday, if anyone wants to take the project over. the things that I can think of that need to be done are: fix the railroads, add Cfkane's Brigham Young, add the city names, and change Oregon to Cascadia. (Yeah, I've been lazy, I know.)
If you're interested in taking over, let me know (although I'll likely still put it up regardless.)
TC01
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I'd be willing to help out with some things- I could easily do the city lists and the name change.
What is wrong with the railroads?
What is wrong with the railroads?
Flintlock1415
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Well they restrict just fine, its just that they look like roads without any connections and you can only place them via worldbuilder (ie they can't be built.)
I'm sure if you went through all of the files you could just copy the road's info for a second route.
I'm sure if you went through all of the files you could just copy the road's info for a second route.
