SesnOfWthr
True Believer
Pre-flight check Palenque is in serious jeopardy. Inca wont even talk to us. Good news is that one warrior is fortified across a river, and the vet is at 2/4. I still feel it is a lost cause though, and I am forced to abandon it. L Bonampak has a worker done, but wont grow for three more turns, so I change it to spearman to avoid wasting turns. BTW, if Bon. Gets fried by that volcano down the road Im gonna have to say I told you so. L Yax is building granary, but already has happiness issues and CI is building Pyramids so
.. I change it to temple so we can grab the horses that are just outside borders. Also MM so it will have 18 left instead of 20 in two turns so I can pop rush to finish it and only cost one citizen. Copan will finish temple in two turns so I change one citizen to tax collector for these turns. This also brings us back to no gain/loss per turn. Thats especially important as we only have four left in the treasury. Not many options in Tikal so I leave it as is. CI is well into Pyramids so Ill leave that, but it should be defended by more than just a warrior.
General observations: There are borders to our south, Probably Aztecs if cultural linking was left on. They could be a good or bad down the road. We need more workers. We only have four and they are currently all working jungle squares. We MUST meet more civs soon or well never trade anything. L An extension of that is we must also explore more as there are only a couple of good city sites in view. A bit more money would be nice, so when iron working finishes in 3 Ill go back to a (slight) profit economy. If we dont have iron in all these hills around us, I may break my conquests CD. There is also a goody hut right outside Yax.
Here goes nothing.
1. 1500 bc this turn is already done, does it still count as mine?
2. 1475 bc not much doing. Move pal warrior, move workers to connect Bon.
3. 1450 bc copan temple -> worker. Workers connect Bon. Rush temple in Yax send spare warrior south to meet our new neighbors. Aztecs found Calix. Just south of our capitol and claim incense there.
4. 1425 bc -- iron working -> writing in 9 spear thrower in copan defeated att. Barb IBT Yax temple->settler Hallelujah! We have iron two spaces south of our capital, within our borders. Send 2 workers to road it. Barb also appeared near BON. IBT
5. 1400 bc -- Tikal spear -> worker Our golden age will be starting next turn as a warrior is about to attack Bon next turn, and we have a UU defending across a river.
6. 1375 bc -- Should have known, they didnt attack, but they did pillage our road. Bon spear -> spear we get 50 gold from the hut near Yax I dont attack with jav as I would rather avoid a golden age this early
7. 1350 bc our warrior near yax sees 3 furs 5 SW of yax can now see Iroquois town of Allegheny to our NW
8. 1325 bc IBT out spear in Bon defends and promotes Inca want all our gold plus 1 gpt for peace, I doubt it! We meet Aztecs, they have no techs but I sell them myst for all their gold (108)
9. 1300 bc not much doing. We did defeat warrior attacking Bon IBT they now only want 60 for peace. They still have one warrior in our terr. And I think I can get them lower.
10. 1275 bc Tikal loses citizen to disease, same turn worker is done, net loss of 2 pop points. Worker -> temple send workers to connect Bon and future fur city
11. 1250 bc IBT chasqui scout moves near Bon will have writing in 1 so I adjust slider down to get extra 20 gold I intend to end war as soon as we defeat a couple more of their units because of this I change Copan to settler, now I just on need an escort as hell be done in 1 so I divert warrior going to Iroquois
12. 1225 bc we get writing switch to Lit in 13 as this is slowly researched by ai. I thought of Phil., but I didnt think wed be first so its useless to us. We have connected iron Copan settler -> sword
13. 1200 bc -- Finally give in and pay the 60 gold for peace (really kills me to pay for peace, but we cant win right now and we really need to be expanding.)
14. 1175 bc rookie mistake L, I let CI fall into disorder bastard Inca just put a city north of Yax and grabbed one of our dyes
15. 1150 bc snoozefest, except I did find the coast NW of Bon Yax settler in one so I MM to get a turn of two scientists
16. 1125bc -- more sleeping I do see a barb hut but I will try to contact Iroquois before I risk our Jav on it Coastal spice city in two, fur city in five, settler from Bon. in five
17. 1100 bc IBT an Iroqouis warrior takes barb camp, but now we have contact. Unfortunately they have nothing, except for 34 gold. Im beginning to think I should have gone for Philosophy .. GODDAMN GREEKS BEAT ME TO THE FURS BY THREE TURNS!!!!! I will divert to find a new location for the city. Someone else will have to meet the greeks as we have no spare units in the area at the moment.
18. 1075 bc The Iroquois are building Pyr, good luck, well have it in 12 Lagartero founded, start Curragh
19. 1050 bc Copan sword-> worker sword sent to ruins of Pal. Settler from Bon in two, maybe we can get Palenque back?
20. 1025bc find a new site for fur city on the coast and surrounded by BG tiles.
21. 1000 bc I dont think the first turn was mine, and at any rate this seems like a more obvious place to stop Quirigua founded, we can still grab 1 fur w/cultural expansion so I start temple. We lost site of Palenque to damn Incas.
Some closing thoughts: I wasnt able to build many workers, so were still short on those, especially with the amount of jungle we have to deal with. Any more expansion will probably have to be east or west. I also had no extra units to explore with, although this seems to be a small map, so that shouldnt handicap us too much. Our military is barely adequate. We do have a few warriors kicking around that could be upgraded, but we have no barracks. The treasury is in much more respectable shape. I would say we need to finish the expansion phase, salting in a few military units during, and then we can have our revenge on the idiot Incas. I mean really, dont they know what theyre up against?
Youre up Pindicator, hope I gave you something to work with. J
Wes
PS -- I would really like to avoid any fighting till we get a new govt so our GA is more effective.
Sorry I didn't wait for your input guys, won't happen again.
General observations: There are borders to our south, Probably Aztecs if cultural linking was left on. They could be a good or bad down the road. We need more workers. We only have four and they are currently all working jungle squares. We MUST meet more civs soon or well never trade anything. L An extension of that is we must also explore more as there are only a couple of good city sites in view. A bit more money would be nice, so when iron working finishes in 3 Ill go back to a (slight) profit economy. If we dont have iron in all these hills around us, I may break my conquests CD. There is also a goody hut right outside Yax.
Here goes nothing.
1. 1500 bc this turn is already done, does it still count as mine?
2. 1475 bc not much doing. Move pal warrior, move workers to connect Bon.
3. 1450 bc copan temple -> worker. Workers connect Bon. Rush temple in Yax send spare warrior south to meet our new neighbors. Aztecs found Calix. Just south of our capitol and claim incense there.
4. 1425 bc -- iron working -> writing in 9 spear thrower in copan defeated att. Barb IBT Yax temple->settler Hallelujah! We have iron two spaces south of our capital, within our borders. Send 2 workers to road it. Barb also appeared near BON. IBT
5. 1400 bc -- Tikal spear -> worker Our golden age will be starting next turn as a warrior is about to attack Bon next turn, and we have a UU defending across a river.
6. 1375 bc -- Should have known, they didnt attack, but they did pillage our road. Bon spear -> spear we get 50 gold from the hut near Yax I dont attack with jav as I would rather avoid a golden age this early
7. 1350 bc our warrior near yax sees 3 furs 5 SW of yax can now see Iroquois town of Allegheny to our NW
8. 1325 bc IBT out spear in Bon defends and promotes Inca want all our gold plus 1 gpt for peace, I doubt it! We meet Aztecs, they have no techs but I sell them myst for all their gold (108)
9. 1300 bc not much doing. We did defeat warrior attacking Bon IBT they now only want 60 for peace. They still have one warrior in our terr. And I think I can get them lower.
10. 1275 bc Tikal loses citizen to disease, same turn worker is done, net loss of 2 pop points. Worker -> temple send workers to connect Bon and future fur city
11. 1250 bc IBT chasqui scout moves near Bon will have writing in 1 so I adjust slider down to get extra 20 gold I intend to end war as soon as we defeat a couple more of their units because of this I change Copan to settler, now I just on need an escort as hell be done in 1 so I divert warrior going to Iroquois
12. 1225 bc we get writing switch to Lit in 13 as this is slowly researched by ai. I thought of Phil., but I didnt think wed be first so its useless to us. We have connected iron Copan settler -> sword
13. 1200 bc -- Finally give in and pay the 60 gold for peace (really kills me to pay for peace, but we cant win right now and we really need to be expanding.)
14. 1175 bc rookie mistake L, I let CI fall into disorder bastard Inca just put a city north of Yax and grabbed one of our dyes
15. 1150 bc snoozefest, except I did find the coast NW of Bon Yax settler in one so I MM to get a turn of two scientists
16. 1125bc -- more sleeping I do see a barb hut but I will try to contact Iroquois before I risk our Jav on it Coastal spice city in two, fur city in five, settler from Bon. in five
17. 1100 bc IBT an Iroqouis warrior takes barb camp, but now we have contact. Unfortunately they have nothing, except for 34 gold. Im beginning to think I should have gone for Philosophy .. GODDAMN GREEKS BEAT ME TO THE FURS BY THREE TURNS!!!!! I will divert to find a new location for the city. Someone else will have to meet the greeks as we have no spare units in the area at the moment.
18. 1075 bc The Iroquois are building Pyr, good luck, well have it in 12 Lagartero founded, start Curragh
19. 1050 bc Copan sword-> worker sword sent to ruins of Pal. Settler from Bon in two, maybe we can get Palenque back?
20. 1025bc find a new site for fur city on the coast and surrounded by BG tiles.
21. 1000 bc I dont think the first turn was mine, and at any rate this seems like a more obvious place to stop Quirigua founded, we can still grab 1 fur w/cultural expansion so I start temple. We lost site of Palenque to damn Incas.
Some closing thoughts: I wasnt able to build many workers, so were still short on those, especially with the amount of jungle we have to deal with. Any more expansion will probably have to be east or west. I also had no extra units to explore with, although this seems to be a small map, so that shouldnt handicap us too much. Our military is barely adequate. We do have a few warriors kicking around that could be upgraded, but we have no barracks. The treasury is in much more respectable shape. I would say we need to finish the expansion phase, salting in a few military units during, and then we can have our revenge on the idiot Incas. I mean really, dont they know what theyre up against?
Youre up Pindicator, hope I gave you something to work with. J
Wes
PS -- I would really like to avoid any fighting till we get a new govt so our GA is more effective.
Sorry I didn't wait for your input guys, won't happen again.