State of the Union 2013: 4th Annual CFC Live Commentary and Heckling!
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What's all this crumbling infrastructure I keep hearing about? I thought Obama spent $1 trillion for instrastructure these last few years. Where's all that stimulus been going? 
Home sector now.
He's going to mention stopping the fraud any minute now.
... nope
Rofl, no preschool shatters children's lives, no 4 year old left behind!!!
Every dollar we invest here will save $7 later on!
Federal funding, everyone gets to go to preschool
High school diploma gives students a good path to a job
Home sector now.
He's going to mention stopping the fraud any minute now.
... nope
Rofl, no preschool shatters children's lives, no 4 year old left behind!!!
Every dollar we invest here will save $7 later on!
Federal funding, everyone gets to go to preschool
High school diploma gives students a good path to a job
What's all this crumbling infrastructure I keep hearing about? I thought Obama spent $1 trillion for instrastructure these last few years. Where's all that stimulus been going?
Home sector now.
He's going to mention stopping the fraud any minute now.
Most of it was wasted on tax cuts.
RobAnybody
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That's not true. The IRS website chose $20,000 as an illustrative number. Like, as in "let's assume your Family's Health Insurance cost is $20,000/year. Here's how to calculate the deductions you'll receive, given your income, or the penalties you'll pay if you don't insure your family". It was an example to illustrate the calculations. Right-wing bloggers ran with it like it was a real number. Shocker, I know.
United, for example, has a low-cost plan with a $2500 deductible, 20% member coinsurance, that costs about $566.47/month for a family of 4 (rates vary with your age & location of course), which works out to $6,800/year. Not $20,000.
TomYo689
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They won't raise their price when it becomes required by law to have? The private sector astounds me.
Here's the IRS estimate:
http://www.irs.gov/PUP/newsroom/REG-148500-12 FR.pdf
Mmm, getting the word "jobs" is getting me a tiny bit drunk. Rest of my words aren't getting much play cept for "immigration".
Paycheck fairness act, most socialist phrase of the night.
$9 minimum wage.
Tie it to cost of living. Magic!
Paycheck fairness act, most socialist phrase of the night.
$9 minimum wage.
Tie it to cost of living. Magic!
schlaufuchs
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Rofl, no preschool shatters children's lives, no 4 year old left behind!!!
Every dollar we invest here will save $7 later on!
Federal funding, everyone gets to go to preschool
High school diploma gives students a good path to a job
You joke, but preschool is important. Most kids these days are expected to enter Primary school being able to read. Not going to preschool creates a divide for the kid that follows him or her all the way into high school
IdiotsOpposite
Boom, headshot.
Except it doesn't have anything to do with socialism at all. Nice try, though. Socialism is economic, the Paycheck Fairness Act is a social issue.
IdiotsOpposite
Boom, headshot.
Wow good job. You are right. Paychecks have nothing to do with economics.
:eyeroll: Do you even know what the Paycheck Fairness Act is about, or are you just spouting off based on the name? Because to me, it sure sounds like the latter.
Because the government made it illegal to import cheap drugs.
Because government made it illegal to resell drugs.
Because government made it so that hospitals have to treat everyone regardless of ability to pay.
Government doesn't force medical services to have upfront pricing like everyone else.
Lots of reasons.
Wow good job. You are right. Paychecks have nothing to do with economics.
Making capitalism work is socialist?
Some meddling with paychecks beyond minimum wage no doubt.
Most of those reasons being the private sector waste, fraud, and abuse, and things that the private sector lobbied for and conservatives gave them.
RobAnybody
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Yes, they're examples. It says stuff like...
"Example 2. Married employee with dependents.
Taxpayers B and C are married and file a joint return for 2016. B and C have two children, D and E. In November 2015, B is eligible to enroll in self-only coverage under a plan offered by B’s employer for calendar year 2016 at a cost of $5,000 to B. C, D, and E are eligible to enroll in family coverage under the same plan for 2016 at a cost of $20,000 to B."
It doesn't say that's the actual cost. It says, "if this is the cost, here's what happens..." They're made up numbers to illustrate an example.
IdiotsOpposite
Boom, headshot.
Odd that the IRS who will be enforcing Obamacare's penalties seem to think the lowest cost plans will cost so much. Thanks for pointing it out.
