The Deity Challenge Line-up #39 - Austria
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consentient
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Yeah, 70k is the kinda level where I usually just give up! Well done for persevering! 
is one of the few AIs who sending to war isn't gonna bring that number down!
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stormtrooper412
Peacemongering Turtlesaur
In hindsight, I should have gone Observatories earlier, Oxford into Radio and it would have snowballed more potently. I really REALLY like the UA. It's like hey thanks for building me the city so I don't get to bother with it, I'll just take it from you thanks. And you can just annex it outright and everything's cool.
Late game marriage is very dicey as you have to provide enough of a happiness cushion so that it doesn't simply break you down immediately
Late game marriage is very dicey as you have to provide enough of a happiness cushion so that it doesn't simply break you down immediately
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Purchasing with Austria does seem worth it. Ive seen the ai pull it off on really dominant huns and sweden and it worked so well for Austria.
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It comes far too late to make any significant difference, surely?
stormtrooper412
Peacemongering Turtlesaur
yeah the UB is quite good, I think I made a lot of writers and artists that I usually do. I think I got 3 musicians in somewhere around 50 turns which is quite nice. And that was after Arts Funding got repealed.
I definitely think Austria are quite underrated
I definitely think Austria are quite underrated
Acken
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I think it's a bit of an illusion.
Getting 25% more GPP that late in the game is unlikely to lead to a lot more Great people. If you have already the opener, garden and national epic you go from 175% to 200% which is a 14% increase of GPP. 12.5% with Ltop.
It will lead to your acquisition of them faster but this matter for the last turns only. Giving you a late GP in some scenarios. If we consider a scenario where:
at turn 100 I have 2 writer slot producing 1+6=7 GPP
at turn 100 I also have the national epic, the opener and a garden for a 1.75 multiplier
at turn 140 I get LtoP for a 2 multiplier
at turn 160 I get Cofee house for a 2.25 multiplier
Then after 300 turns I have 2990 GPP while without the Cofee house 2744. The total cost of 7 writers is 2800 (assuming no free ones). While the first strategy indeed here lead to one more writer, the second will only need 5 turns to catch up.
Getting 25% more GPP that late in the game is unlikely to lead to a lot more Great people. If you have already the opener, garden and national epic you go from 175% to 200% which is a 14% increase of GPP. 12.5% with Ltop.
It will lead to your acquisition of them faster but this matter for the last turns only. Giving you a late GP in some scenarios. If we consider a scenario where:
at turn 100 I have 2 writer slot producing 1+6=7 GPP
at turn 100 I also have the national epic, the opener and a garden for a 1.75 multiplier
at turn 140 I get LtoP for a 2 multiplier
at turn 160 I get Cofee house for a 2.25 multiplier
Then after 300 turns I have 2990 GPP while without the Cofee house 2744. The total cost of 7 writers is 2800 (assuming no free ones). While the first strategy indeed here lead to one more writer, the second will only need 5 turns to catch up.
stormtrooper412
Peacemongering Turtlesaur
I think it's not just about how many you can get by the end, but also it speeds up the generation of those you will get either way. And for a Culture game, the earlier, the better
Acken
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That's the thing though the speeding is really small.
It's not that the UB does nothing, it's that it does very little.
Also I forgot about the +25% from ideology in my calculations so the results are even worth in reality
It's not that the UB does nothing, it's that it does very little.
Also I forgot about the +25% from ideology in my calculations so the results are even worth in reality
My third run at this map, I married a military CS because it was giving me units with only one promotion. No barracks in the city!
I lost and recaptured that city. On recapture it was automatically annexed, that was kind of disappointing. When I first married it, I kept it as a puppet.
I lost and recaptured that city. On recapture it was automatically annexed, that was kind of disappointing. When I first married it, I kept it as a puppet.
Really I felt no competition from the AIs, so I am a little disappointed my finish turn time was not faster. I was three SS parts ahead of the closest competition, and less than twenty turns slower than when I went Internet first trying for a CV (and started building parts when that was not coming together). Starting with Eiffel Tower, I snagged all the later -- except SOL.
Two CS marriages which I lost to late game wars.
Two CS marriages which I lost to late game wars.
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stormtrooper412
Peacemongering Turtlesaur
I forgot to mention I was friends with
most of the game and they were kind enough to act like a makeshift bank every time I needed some cash for stuff.
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most of the game and they were kind enough to act like a makeshift bank every time I needed some cash for stuff.
Well, I am appropriated impressed because I could not get a CV from this map and not so long ago you were struggling with CV! Did you just need to follow the recommendations from that thread? And maybe you said so, and I missed it, but what SP? Freedom? What wonders did you get?
stormtrooper412
Peacemongering Turtlesaur
Yeah, I did. I also watched some LPs by nicky, he specializes in culture wins.
I'm still struggling to get a good time out of it though but for the most part, things seems to be working.
Since the map was @ss, I had all the time in the world to snipe most relevant wonders. Happiness as an issue as well as getting the 5th city up (bought) for extra cargo ships
