[RD] War in Gaza: News Thread


As Palestinians were celebrating the Hamas announcement [on agreeing to a ceasefire proposal], there was ongoing bombardment and air strikes on the eastern part of Rafah.

More attacks have been carried out on neighbourhoods that have been designated as warzones as we’ve been observing flares being fired in the sky over the eastern areas of Rafah.

This is where Palestinians have been told to flee [from] in order to guarantee their own safety.

We have been receiving reports of injuries from different hospitals in Rafah district.

Despite what is happening on the ground, Palestinians are still closely following all the diplomatic efforts being made regarding the truce and waiting for the Israeli response.

Edit: And more:

There has been an escalation of air raids and artillery bombardment in the eastern part of Rafah.

We’re talking nonstop bombing of residential houses. The vast majority of residents there have started to flee the area where the Israeli military is trying to mobilise more troops.

Eyewitnesses that we have been in contact with say they have heard movement of Israeli military tanks across the Gaza separation fence with Israel.

That’s absolutely terrifying … and contradictory to the general atmosphere of positivity around the negotiations.
 
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This is amazing, I can't believe this is a real letter.


In their letter, the dozen Republican senators remind Khan that the U.S. “demonstrated in the American Service-Members’ Protection Act the lengths to which we will go to protect [its] sovereignty.”

The ASPA, signed into law by George W. Bush in 2002, has since become widely known as “The Hague Invasion Act” because it authorizes the U.S. president “to use all means necessary and appropriate” to bring about the release not just of U.S. persons but also allies who are imprisoned or detained by the ICC.
 

“We are horrified at details emerging from mass graves recently unearthed in the Gaza Strip. Over 390 bodies have been discovered at Nasser and Al Shifa hospitals, including of women and children, with many reportedly showing signs of torture and summary executions, and potential instances of people buried alive,” the experts said.

They noted that women, girls and children overall are among those most exposed to danger in this conflict, and that as of 29 April 2024, of 34,488 Palestinians killed in Gaza, 14,500 have been children and 9,500 women. Another 77,643 have reportedly been injured, of which 75% are estimated to be female. Over 8,000 others are reported missing or under the rubble – and the experts noted that at least half of them can be assumed to be women and children. They also noted that an estimated 63 women, including 37 mothers are being killed daily and 17,000 Palestinian children are believed to have been orphaned since the war on Gaza began.
 

Rafah and Kerem Shalom crossings both closed - IDF​

The Rafah crossing is closed after Israel took control of the Gazan side, the IDF says.
In an early morning press briefing, it said KeremShalom crossing is also currently closed andwill reopen once the security situation allows.

Israeli tanks pictured at Gazan side of Rafah crossing​

Israel has released the following images showing their tanks operating by the Rafah crossing, where the Gaza Strip meets Egypt and through which international aid had been entering the territory:

Israeli PM in 'difficult position' - former US Mid-East envoy​

Dennis Ross, a former US Middle East envoy, tells BBC Radio 4's Today programme that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is in a "difficult position" when it comes to agreeing any potential ceasefire deal.
Israel's Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich and National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir have both said they would quit the government over the terms Israel was prepared to put on the table, Ross says, adding it is an "open question" as to whether they are bluffing.
But if the terms Hamas says it will accept are close to what Netanyahu has already agreed to present, Ross says it "won't be so easy for him to turn it down", adding that if Netanyahu was to do so, there is a "high risk" that other figures in the government could leave.
"That doesn't bring the government down the way Smotrich and Ben-Gvir would, but it may set in motion a set of events in Israel that I think could put the government at risk," he says.
"At a certain point, he needs to choose Biden over Ben-Gvir, he needs to choose the hostages over Smotrich".

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-68963839?src_origin=BBCS_BBC
 

IDF takes control of Rafah border crossing; aid flow halted, official says​

The Israel Defense Forces said Tuesday that it took control of the Gazan side of the Rafah crossing with Egypt overnight, marking its first ground incursion into the southern Gazan city. Wael Abu Omar, a Gaza border official, said travel and the flow of aid into the Strip “stopped completely” as a result. Israel said it would send mediators to Egypt to negotiate a cease-fire and hostage-release deal, renewing hopes for a pause in fighting even as it vowed to press on with its military operation in Rafah.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/05/07/israel-hamas-war-rafah-news-gaza-palestine/
 
A letter signed by a dozen senators doesn't represent US policy and its not a surprise that there are a number of pro-Israeli/Zionist politicians in the US government.

Netenhayu is busy rejecting a ceasefire agreement that Hamas agreed, not a surprise either.

Will the US of A stop arms shipments to Israel? Unlikely as they've just agreed $30 billion for Israel.

Does Israel care about world opinion? Not so far.
 

Israeli PM in 'difficult position' - former US Mid-East envoy​

Dennis Ross, a former US Middle East envoy, tells BBC Radio 4's Today programme that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is in a "difficult position" when it comes to agreeing any potential ceasefire deal.
Israel's Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich and National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir have both said they would quit the government over the terms Israel was prepared to put on the table, Ross says, adding it is an "open question" as to whether they are bluffing.
But if the terms Hamas says it will accept are close to what Netanyahu has already agreed to present, Ross says it "won't be so easy for him to turn it down", adding that if Netanyahu was to do so, there is a "high risk" that other figures in the government could leave.
"That doesn't bring the government down the way Smotrich and Ben-Gvir would, but it may set in motion a set of events in Israel that I think could put the government at risk," he says.
"At a certain point, he needs to choose Biden over Ben-Gvir, he needs to choose the hostages over Smotrich".

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-68963839?src_origin=BBCS_BBC
"Difficult position"... in the sense that he needs to keep the war going in order to stay in power... so he can't and won't agree to ceasefire terms, regardless of what the terms actually are, because doing so would likely mean the end of his regime. His only means of staying in power is to continue the war, and he is prioritizing staying in power over all other considerations... which puts him in a "difficult position" in terms of global perception and relations.
 
Honestly it’s probably time we started countenancing the notion that Bibi will survive the war just fine and that he and his guys will still be stomping around till well after the next election. I’m sure many of the English language stories attempting to emphasize The Problem With Bibi are in the big picture a rationalizing attempt at winning the temporary approval of liberals who really just don’t want to feel personally responsible for genocide. Albeit there’s still not a clear road to who could really replace him, or how.
 
Honestly it’s probably time we started countenancing the notion that Bibi will survive the war just fine and that he and his guys will still be stomping around till well after the next election. I’m sure many of the English language stories attempting to emphasize The Problem With Bibi are in the big picture a rationalizing attempt at winning the temporary approval of liberals who really just don’t want to feel personally responsible for genocide. Albeit there’s still not a clear road to who could really replace him, or how.

None of the 'realistic' alternatives have a different policy toward Palestine anyway.
 
None of the 'realistic' alternatives have a different policy toward Palestine anyway.
This is probably true, because the Israeli people favor a hostile, occupation stance towards the Palestinians. However, this is not mutually exclusive with the fact that Netanyahu is using the current invasion and October 7th to sustain the momentum for keeping himself, personally in power. So while the overall posture towards the Palestinians may not change long-term, regardless of who theoretically replaced Netanyahu, I think its a little myopic to essentially excuse Netanyahu's blatant, intentional, self-serving, perpetuation of the current violence, as "inevitable" based on some general condemnation of Israel as a whole. Its perfectly possible to condemn Netanyahu individually while also criticizing Israel's longterm policy towards Palestine.

I'm occasionally fascinated by what often appears to be some sort of effort to insist that criticizing Netanyahu individually is some sort of liberal Western, etc., plot. I'm not sure whether its just virtue-signaling, or something else... but for my part, I've been saying since the beginning that I thought Netanyahu was manipulating the situation to his political advantage and you've been pointing out that Netanyahu's hardline stance towards Palestine is reflected by the majority of Israeli's and would probably continue under any new regime. My point is that both things can be true simultaneously. That shouldn't excuse Netanyahu and ignoring/downplaying his personal role would be missing the woods through the trees.
 
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This is probably true, because the Israeli people favor a hostile, occupation stance towards the Palestinians. However, this is not mutually exclusive with the fact that Netanyahu is using the current invasion and October 7th to sustain the momentum for keeping himself, personally in power. So while the overall posture towards the Palestinians may not change long-term, regardless of who theoretically replaced Netanyahu, I think its a little myopic to essentially excuse Netanyahu's blatant, intentional, self-serving, perpetuation of the current violence, as "inevitable" based on some general condemnation of Israel as a whole. Its perfectly possible to condemn Netanyahu individually while also criticizing Israel's longterm policy towards Palestine.

I'm occasionally fascinated by what often appears to be some sort of effort to insist that criticizing Netanyahu individually is some sort of liberal Western, etc., plot. I'm not sure whether its just virtue-signaling, or something else... but for my part, I've been saying since the beginning that I thought Netanyahu was manipulating the situation to his political advantage and you've been pointing out that Netanyahu's hardline stance towards Palestine is reflected by the majority of Israeli's and would probably continue under any new regime. My point is that both things can be true simultaneously. That shouldn't excuse Netanyahu and ignoring/downplaying his personal role would be missing the woods through the trees.
Net will be out of power when the invasion ends, but the left has collapsed in Israel and his successor will be at least as much right wing (as Bernie called it, "extremist right-wing") as Neta if not more. His possible successors were even featured at the Hague preliminary trial, with their quotes being evidence of genocidal intent.

The ever-more-to-the-extreme-right tendency has been known for a while.

 
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Net will be out of power when the invasion ends, but the left has collapsed in Israel and his successor will be at least as much right wing (as Bernie called it, "extremist right-wing") ad Neta if not more. His possible successors were even featured at the Hague preliminary trial, with their quotes being evidence of genocidal intent.

The ever-more-to-the-extreme-right tendency has been known for a while.

I suspect that if the hypothetical cease fire somehow materializes, that will be the opportunity for ambitious right-wingers to oust Netanyahu as the "failure who let Oct 7th happen" and who "capitulated to our enemies and cowed to Western pressure"... or something along those lines... immediately after which, a new hardliner takes over and continues the occupation and re-settlement of the Gaza, until the next round of mass violence.

However, I am still suspicious that Netanyahu may yet be able to prolong the current conflict long enough to just continue to coast in power indefinitely, without there ever being so much as a real longterm ceasefire.
 

Biden warns U.S. will stop sending weapons to Israel if Netanyahu orders attack on Rafah​

Washington prefers 'no major combat' in southern Gaza city, defence secretary says

U.S. President Joe Biden on Wednesday publicly warned Israel for the first time that the U.S. would stop supplying it weapons if Israeli forces make a major invasion of Rafah, a refugee-packed city in southern Gaza.

"I made it clear that if they go into Rafah ... I'm not supplying the weapons that have been used historically to deal with Rafah, to deal with the cities — that deal with that problem," Biden said in an interview with CNN.

Biden's comments represent his strongest public language to date in his effort to deter an Israeli assault on Rafah while underscoring a growing rift between the U.S. and its strongest ally in the Middle East.

Biden acknowledged Israel has used U.S. weapons to kill civilians in Gaza, where it has mounted a seven-month-long offensive aimed at annihilating Palestinian militant group Hamas.

"Civilians have been killed in Gaza as a consequence of those bombs and other ways in which they go after population centres," Biden said when asked about 2,000-pound bombs sent to Israel.

Yet Biden said the U.S. would continue to provide defensive weapons to Israel, including for its Iron Dome air defence system.

The interview was released hours after U.S. Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin acknowledged publicly Biden's decision last week to hold up the delivery of thousands of heavy bombs was made out of concern for Rafah, where Washington opposes a major Israeli invasion without civilian safeguards.

Biden had pledged his complete support for Israel following Hamas's Oct. 7 attack on the country, and has since sent weaponry worth billions of dollars.

Austin stressed that the U.S. commitment to Israel's defence remained "ironclad" and the decision on suspending the munitions shipment was not final.

Still, he said the U.S. prefers that "no major combat take place in Rafah" and that at a minimum any Israeli operation must safeguard civilian lives.

Battling on Rafah outskirts​

Meanwhile, Hamas battled Israeli troops on the outskirts of Rafah on Wednesday. Israeli tanks rolled into Gaza at the Rafah border crossing with Egypt on Tuesday, cutting off a vital aid route and the only exit for the evacuation of wounded patients.

A UN official said no fuel or aid had entered the Gaza Strip due to the military operation, a situation that is "disastrous for the humanitarian response" in Gaza, where more than half the population is suffering catastrophic hunger.

Israel has threatened a major assault on Rafah to defeat thousands of Hamas fighters it says are there, but Western nations and the United Nations say a full-scale attack on the city would trigger a humanitarian catastrophe.

Hamas's attack on Oct. 7 killed about 1,200 people with about 250 others abducted, of whom 133 are believed to remain in captivity in Gaza, according to Israeli tallies.

Israel's campaign to destroy Hamas has led to a seven-month-long military campaign that has so far killed 34,789 Palestinians, mostly civilians, the Gaza Health Ministry said.

Austin said that Israel had to be more precise and the type of weapons used in a heavily populated area mattered.

A "small-diameter bomb, which is a precision weapon, it's very useful in a dense, built-up environment... but maybe not so much a 2,000-pound bomb that could create a lot of collateral damage," Austin said.

U.S. State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller told reporters there were serious concerns about an Israeli operation in Rafah given the way Israel has acted in Gaza previously "and what the impact on civilian population has been."

Miller said the U.S. was reviewing the status of other near-term arms shipments to Israel.

Biden under pressure​

The conflict has left many of Gaza's 2.3 million people on the brink of starvation and sparked U.S. protests calling for universities and for Biden to withdraw support for Israel — including weapons. Democrats, including some lawmakers in his party, are also demanding Biden put more pressure on Israel.

A senior U.S. official, speaking on Tuesday on condition of anonymity, said Washington had paused a shipment consisting of 1,800 2,000-pound bombs and 1,700 500-pound bombs. Austin did not detail the size or number of munitions involved.

U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham was among the Republicans who rebuked the Biden administration over the decision.

"This is obscene. It is absurd. Give Israel what they need," Graham told Austin, adding Washington should not second-guess how Israel fights Hamas militants bent on Israel's destruction.

U.S. Sen. Deb Fischer, another Republican, who sits on the Senate Armed Services Committee, urged Biden to drop "his politically motivated hold."

"American support for Israel cannot be in doubt, especially now," she said.

For its part, the Israeli military appeared on Wednesday to play down the arms shipment holdup, saying the allies resolve any disagreements "behind closed doors."

Ceasefire talks continue​

In Cairo, delegations to negotiations from Hamas, Israel, the U.S., Egypt and Qatar reacted positively to the resumption of talks on Tuesday, two Egyptian sources said.

"The talks are ongoing," White House spokesperson Karine Jean-Pierre said.

CIA Director William Burns traveled from Cairo to Israel on Wednesday and met Netanyahu, an Israeli official said.

Israel on Monday declared that a three-phase proposal approved by Hamas was unacceptable because terms had been watered down. White House spokesperson John Kirby said a new text presented by Hamas suggests gaps could be closed.

The proposal included a first phase with a six-week ceasefire, an influx of aid to Gaza, the return of 33 Israeli hostages, alive or dead, and the release by Israel of 30 detained Palestinian children and women for each released Israeli hostage, according to several sources.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/biden-weapons-shipment-israel-pause-1.7197445
 
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