Angst
Rambling and inconsistent
Randoms about Scandinavia:
1) Norway, Denmark and Sweden should be united from 1400 to 1500 as the Kalmar Union. This should be choosable for Denmark to do or not to do. If not done, we will follow Timeline Y below the numbers.
Timeline X
2) Between 1500 and 1550 there should be several revolts in Sweden wanting Sweden to be independent. If this succeeds, Sweden is created as a nation, and the Kalmar Union is named Denmark-Norway instead.
3) a) If Sweden becomes independent: Denmark-Norway should be a nation until the Napoleonic wars. If Sweden is the victor over Denmark-Norway, they should get Norway. If they lose, Denmark-Norway gets Northern Sweden or Finland and is renamed [Scandia/Scandinavian Union/Scandinavland/Dansk Imperium]. b) If Sweden does not become independent: If the Kalmar Union is a victor of the Napoleonic Wars (They'll join on France's side), they get parts of Russia. If they lose, the Kalmar Union is split into Denmark, Norway and Sweden (Sweden owning Finland).
4) WWI and WWII terms are difficult to imagine as it is.
Timeline Y - not so accurate, very loose
2) Between 1500 and 1600 there should be some minor revolts in Scania (Skåne), wanting the area to become Swedish. They should of course be very easy to surpress.
3) Sweden has a hard time becoming a Great Power, as the Russian states want Finland. In 1600, some random events should happen, giving them a boost and making Sweden able to compete on a worldwide scale. A Swedish-Russian war should happen in about 1530. If Russia wins, they should get the whole of Sweden, or if they win at a smaller scale, only Finland will be recieved by Russia. If Russia loses, Sweden will get some money. Russia will probably conquer them before Sweden becomes even able of coughing troops. If this happens, both Norway and Denmark looks at Russia as a fierce enemy (Historically Denmark and Russia was good friends).
4) Norway becomes an ally of Denmark or Sweden in about 1600, it depends on who's the stronger. Of course, if Sweden becomes conquered by Russia, they will ally with Denmark... They are very weak though - The black death was harsh for Norway in the medieval ages. This is also the reason why Norway was so easily annexed by Denmark [/random]
5) Russia will make Sweden very, very rich if they succeeded in conquering the nation in the war in 1530. If only Finland was conquered, the Finnish areas will become rich.
6) If Sweden is annexed by Russia, they will revolt in about 1700, emerging as a great power with help of the enrichening events nr 5. If Finland is property of Russia, they will revolt and become a very centralized and powerful state.
7) Denmark and Norway will be as neutral as possible in the Napoleonic wars. If Finland is present, they will help significantly on the Napoleonic side against Russia. If Sweden is present as a great power, they will lose significantly against Russia if participating on their side. If Sweden remains neutral, they will probably found some colonies or something.
7a) If Finland victors in the Napoleonic Wars, they will become very powerful, getting areas in Russia. A random event should let them vassalize a poor Norway Sweden and Denmark in about 1830. Especially Sweden should be easily integrated into Finland.
8) If Finland is a Great Power unifying Scandinavia, they will decline in about 1870. Danish, Swedish, Gotlandish, Lapp, Jute, Scanian and Norwegian revolts will happen in 1910 or such, making them unable to participate in WWI. This will make a Yugoslavia-situation up there.
9) If Scandinavian Yugoslavia happens, there will be much turmoil in about 1950, making USA and Russia wanting to participate in the Great Northern War of that timeline. Sweden, Lappland and Finland should have a good chance becoming communist, whilst Jutland and Denmark fights amongst each other as monarchies and Norway becomes a liberal nation, kind of a vassal of the US as Denmark is today (We're really buttkissing the Unites States here in Denmark).
lol I got myself carried a little away there
1) Norway, Denmark and Sweden should be united from 1400 to 1500 as the Kalmar Union. This should be choosable for Denmark to do or not to do. If not done, we will follow Timeline Y below the numbers.
Timeline X
2) Between 1500 and 1550 there should be several revolts in Sweden wanting Sweden to be independent. If this succeeds, Sweden is created as a nation, and the Kalmar Union is named Denmark-Norway instead.
3) a) If Sweden becomes independent: Denmark-Norway should be a nation until the Napoleonic wars. If Sweden is the victor over Denmark-Norway, they should get Norway. If they lose, Denmark-Norway gets Northern Sweden or Finland and is renamed [Scandia/Scandinavian Union/Scandinavland/Dansk Imperium]. b) If Sweden does not become independent: If the Kalmar Union is a victor of the Napoleonic Wars (They'll join on France's side), they get parts of Russia. If they lose, the Kalmar Union is split into Denmark, Norway and Sweden (Sweden owning Finland).
4) WWI and WWII terms are difficult to imagine as it is.
Timeline Y - not so accurate, very loose
2) Between 1500 and 1600 there should be some minor revolts in Scania (Skåne), wanting the area to become Swedish. They should of course be very easy to surpress.
3) Sweden has a hard time becoming a Great Power, as the Russian states want Finland. In 1600, some random events should happen, giving them a boost and making Sweden able to compete on a worldwide scale. A Swedish-Russian war should happen in about 1530. If Russia wins, they should get the whole of Sweden, or if they win at a smaller scale, only Finland will be recieved by Russia. If Russia loses, Sweden will get some money. Russia will probably conquer them before Sweden becomes even able of coughing troops. If this happens, both Norway and Denmark looks at Russia as a fierce enemy (Historically Denmark and Russia was good friends).
4) Norway becomes an ally of Denmark or Sweden in about 1600, it depends on who's the stronger. Of course, if Sweden becomes conquered by Russia, they will ally with Denmark... They are very weak though - The black death was harsh for Norway in the medieval ages. This is also the reason why Norway was so easily annexed by Denmark [/random]
5) Russia will make Sweden very, very rich if they succeeded in conquering the nation in the war in 1530. If only Finland was conquered, the Finnish areas will become rich.
6) If Sweden is annexed by Russia, they will revolt in about 1700, emerging as a great power with help of the enrichening events nr 5. If Finland is property of Russia, they will revolt and become a very centralized and powerful state.
7) Denmark and Norway will be as neutral as possible in the Napoleonic wars. If Finland is present, they will help significantly on the Napoleonic side against Russia. If Sweden is present as a great power, they will lose significantly against Russia if participating on their side. If Sweden remains neutral, they will probably found some colonies or something.
7a) If Finland victors in the Napoleonic Wars, they will become very powerful, getting areas in Russia. A random event should let them vassalize a poor Norway Sweden and Denmark in about 1830. Especially Sweden should be easily integrated into Finland.
8) If Finland is a Great Power unifying Scandinavia, they will decline in about 1870. Danish, Swedish, Gotlandish, Lapp, Jute, Scanian and Norwegian revolts will happen in 1910 or such, making them unable to participate in WWI. This will make a Yugoslavia-situation up there.
9) If Scandinavian Yugoslavia happens, there will be much turmoil in about 1950, making USA and Russia wanting to participate in the Great Northern War of that timeline. Sweden, Lappland and Finland should have a good chance becoming communist, whilst Jutland and Denmark fights amongst each other as monarchies and Norway becomes a liberal nation, kind of a vassal of the US as Denmark is today (We're really buttkissing the Unites States here in Denmark).
lol I got myself carried a little away there