2 UUs

[Alvin]

2 UUs,comeon it will make the game more fun for everyone.#@!
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[G-Force Junkie]

US - F-15, Ranger (replaces paratrooper)
England - Man-O-War, SAS (replaces paratrooper)
Byzantium - Cataphract (replaces knight), Fire Galley (???)
Rome - Legionary (4/2/1), Praetorian Guard (replaces spearman or upgrades from spearman with iron working)
Japan - Samurai (replaces medieval infantry), something like a mounted samurai to replace knight

 

[SuperBeaverInc.]

America: SEAL(Marine) or Minuteman(Rifleman)
England: Redcoat(Rifleman)
Rome: Praetorian Guard(Spearman)
Russia: T-55(Tank)
Germany: U-Boat(Submarine)
Egypt: Archer unit
Byzantium: Should have a cataphract
Japan: Kamikaze(Fighter) or Zero (Fighter)

 

[Mr. Dictator]

Japan: Kamikaze(Fighter) or Zero (Fighter)

but werent most kamikazes zeros, id rather have the other japanese UU be something like an Ashigaru spearman or Ninja.

 

[Xen]

rather then a preatorian guard replacing the spearman, how about Auxilla, who were in heavey use by the empire, as opposed to the preatorian guard, who are well represented by an elite army of four elite legionaries...

 

[Ian Beale]

Originally posted by SuperBeaverInc.
America: SEAL(Marine) or Minuteman(Rifleman)
England: Redcoat(Rifleman)
Rome: Praetorian Guard(Spearman)
Russia: T-55(Tank)
Germany: U-Boat(Submarine)
Egypt: Archer unit
Byzantium: Should have a cataphract
Japan: Kamikaze(Fighter) or Zero (Fighter)

These sound good to me!

 

[Portuguese]

Port: Nau (MOW with more defense), Pike
Spain: Conquistador, Galleon (MOW with more transport capability)

 

[casual_moose]

if you made the Nau with more defense than a MOW (i assume you mean man of war) would you take off movement? or maybey attack same with Galleon

 

[Mr. Dictator]

or how about Germany having the Zeppelin, and giving everyone else a balloon, or scout balloon.

but they would have to add a new tech like "crude flight"

 

[SoCalian]

Ottomans: Sipahi ; Jannisary
Vikings: Beserks ; Longboat

 

[Pirate]

Iroquois: Iroquios musketeer - slightly more expensive (70 shields) but doesn't need saltpeter. +1 movement.

The Iroquios used to trade the Dutch for rifles and powder, eventually becoming better armed than the French were in America.

 

[tonberry]

When possible, I've try to choose unit from different eras. In () are to unit replaced.

America: Ranger (paratrooper)
England: English longbowmen (longbowmen)
Byzantium: Cataphract (knight)
Rome: Auxilla (spearmen)
Japan: Zero (fighter)
China: Crossbowmen (longbowmen)
Germany: Tetonic knight (medieval infantry)
France: La Vielle Garde (riflemen)
Korea: Turtle ship (caravel)
Spain: Improved galleon
Scandinavia: Longboat (galley and caravel)
Russian: T-34 (tank)
Iroquois: Hunter (musketmen)
Mongol: heavy pikemen (pikemen)
Greek: trireme (galley)

 

[Xen]

the Preatorians are NOT a realistic second unit, at best they could be represented as an all elite civ3 army, but they were hardley around in enough numbers to make them somthing the were not0 a replacement for spearmen, it is by far better to make a Roman spearman replace ment out of the auxilla, the real life roman spear armed troops

edit- and I bet you guys thought I was only about Byzantium...

 

[tonberry]

Originally posted by Xen
the Preatorians are NOT a realistic second unit, at best they could be represented as an all elite civ3 army, but they were hardley around in enough numbers to make them somthing the were not0 a replacement for spearmen, it is by far better to make a Roman spearman replace ment out of the auxilla, the real life roman spear armed troops

edit- and I bet you guys thought I was only about Byzantium...

Done, happy now?

Btw, I've just tought that the Vielle Garde would be a riflemen with better attack. I think it's to similar to the muskeeter. Any other suggestions?

 

[Xen]

very

I have some other suggestions however...mind you these are suggestions, and not corrections as my statement on the Auxilla vr Praetorians was...

I dont belive the Mongols had a heavey pikman in there armies, at least not of there own origin, they did however imploy native levies from the peoples that allied with them, or another cavarly unit might be even more accurat, as that would represent Mongol tactics of using heavey cav up front, to act as an initial shock force. and then sending the light cavalry ranks through gaps in the formation to attach the opponent while otherwise ingaged....

another greek unit might be the Companinon cavalry, the cavaly units used by Alexander the great, and the base of the successor cavalry units

 

[tonberry]

Originally posted by Xen
very

I dont belive the Mongols had a heavey pikman in there armies, at least not of there own origin, they did however imploy native levies from the peoples that allied with them, or another cavarly unit might be even more accurat, as that would represent Mongol tactics of using heavey cav up front, to act as an initial shock force. and then sending the light cavalry ranks through gaps in the formation to attach the opponent while otherwise ingaged....

The Mongols use their rider to lure their ennemies in forests where their pikemen would kill them.

I've read this tactics many times so this is why I've make this suggestion.

 

[Mr. Dictator]

shouldnt germany get something like a zeppelin or gestapo?

 

[tonberry]

Originally posted by Mr. Dictator
shouldnt germany get something like a zeppelin or gestapo?

Not a gestapo as is was, IIRC, only a special agent. If the civ of Germany represent the country and the germanic tribes, I think the Teutonic Knight would be a good unit.

 

[Xen]

I dont think Zepplins were used enough (or even ablke to represented as a civ unit very well) to be warrented as a UU, and as for nazis... I would hope not...

 

[Chieftess]

I actually have a modpack slowly in the works (not for C3C - origanally started in vailla Civ3, but never got around to it - needed unit names) for 2 UUs. Of course, if that were for C3C, it'd mean more overtime for the poor artists.