2nd WW2 Cumulative History Quiz

[privatehudson]

I don't know if Vichy France was ever *officially* allied to Germany, and I'm pretty darn sure China wasn't...

 

[DexterJ]

Im pretty sure China isnt in Europe, and both the nationalist and communist governments were on the allied side and fought against the Japanese.

 

[Hamlet]

This is the problem with these kinds of things; questions which are open to personal interpretation and variation. This question depends entirely on how you define a decleration of war and what an ally is. Finland was perfectly legitimate as an answer to the original question.

Vichy was (formally) neutral in the war, and was also not officially allied to Germany. (AFAIK.)

Yugoslavia is the only other candidate I can think of.

 

[DexterJ]

how about norway? ruled by Quisling?

 

[Hamlet]

Like Vichy, I doubt Norway was ever formally allied, (Although I'm not as sure abut this as I am as Vichy.) and it certainly wasn't 'ruled' by Quisling in the sense we would associate with that word.

 

[DexterJ]

True, though the fact that the country was actually ruled by a Nazi governor possibly means it was a German ally (?) debatable.

Although The Norwegian National Union Party was the only political party allowed in Norway after the Germans invaded, even after Quisling was appointed Minister President, actual power in Norway rested in Josef Terboven - the German appointed Reichscommissar for Norway. Below Terboven was Higher SS and Police Leader, SS Obergruppenführer und General der Polizie Weitzel. Weitzel was later replaced by SS Obergruppenführer und General der Polizie Wilhelm Rediess. Both men acted in the position of controlling all aspects of the SS (and many other areas) in Norway, under direction from their own commander, Heinrich Himmler.

Quisling and Terboven disliked one another a great deal, and each attempted to undermine the others postion and authority within Norway. Quisling attempted to undermine Terbovens attempt at forming a Norwegian branch of the Germanic SS, and Terboven attempted to undermine Quislings National Union party and his overall control of Norway.

Norway can be considered to have been a puppet state during WWII, controlled between the forces of the German occupation and Quisling's NS party. The NS was given some authority within Norway, and in this manner formed a great number of formations and units under complete Norwegian control. Although an occupied nation under the direct control of Germany, Norway was allowed some degree of freedom through the NS party, and it was in this respect that Norway served as an Axis Ally during WWII - although at best a puppet state. The history of its formations and units is none-the-less and important facet of the Axis cause in WWII.

http://www.feldgrau.com/a-norway.html

 

[Hamlet]

True, though the fact that the country was actually ruled by a Nazi governor possibly means it was a German ally (?) debatable.

If we're going by that logic, then the Netherlands, Belgium, Czechia, Poland, and Luxembourg are also contenders.

Like I said though, this was a god-awful question.

 

[DexterJ]

Quote:
Originally Posted by DexterJ
True, though the fact that the country was actually ruled by a Nazi governor possibly means it was a German ally (?) debatable.

If we're going by that logic, then the Netherlands, Belgium, Czechia, Poland, and Luxembourg are also contenders.

hmm I dont think the Netherlands, Belgium, Czechia, Poland, and Luxembourg were at all self-governing. the czech republic and poland were simply incorporated into the greater german reich. and i think belguim, Luxembourg and the netherlands were controlled by the army.

 

[Serutan]

The question was more amorphous than I thought when I asked
it. The answer I was thinking of was Bulgaria. Floor is open.

 

[Hamlet]

hmm I dont think the Netherlands, Belgium, Czechia, Poland, and Luxembourg were at all self-governing.

Er, I was talking about your argument (As interpreted it) that any country under German occupation/governance could be considered to be a German ally for the purposes of the question.

Norway was not "self-governing". Norway was ultimately governed by Germany, through Terboven. Quisling was/is a distraction.

 

[Serutan]

Er, I was talking about your argument (As interpreted it) that any country under German occupation/governance could be considered to be a German ally for the purposes of the question.

I think that was bogus, too. My big mistake was thinking
that Finland had formally delcared war, which it
apparently did not.

 

[Adler17]

Since the floor is opern:

Who was Reinhard Gehlen?

Adler

 

[privatehudson]

The question was more amorphous than I thought when I asked
it. The answer I was thinking of was Bulgaria. Floor is open.

Good point, I forgot about them. My answer was correct though too

 

[privatehudson]

Since the floor is opern:

Who was Reinhard Gehlen?

Adler

An intelligence officer in the Wermacht during the war who worked for the Americans after it and then the West Germans. From what I recall he was very sucessful at recruiting former Wermacht and SS intelligence operatives who had expertise in Russian affairs which caused his employers to forget their often dubious pasts.

 

[Adler17]

Indeed PH. Your turn. BTW do you know the 3 organizations he lead?

Adler

 

[FriendlyFire]

I don't think it was but I do believe the suspension was designed by a guyin the US, who offered it to the Americans and they turned him back, but I'm not sure if the whole tank was designed there. But I'll guess America anyway

????

Walter Christie I believe which was the designer more specifily of the Christie suspension system. On a additional side note Christie first tryed to sell hes concept to the American then British without success

Russian design and designation for the T-34 was by far developed by the Russians themselves, I would have answered the question differently. The largely successful design of the T-34 was the result of an error on the Russian side.
I'll save it for one of my Question later.

 

[privatehudson]

Indeed PH. Your turn. BTW do you know the 3 organizations he lead?

Adler

IIRC one was named after him, that's all I recall from the book

 

[privatehudson]

Question then (and personally I'd consider this not too hard)

A German looked into the sky and said "That cannot be right, it never snows in september". What event was he observing?

 

[Adler17]

IIRC one was named after him, that's all I recall from the book

The organzations were: Fremde Heere Ost, Organisation Gehlen, Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND)

Adler

 

[DexterJ]

Is it the ash falling from a) the chimneys at a death camp or b) the ash falling from the firebombing of dresden