[Vote] (5-81) Change Drill Line Bonuses

[Legen]

Proposal:
Drill line (per level):
+10% Combat Strength+15% damage reduction vs cities
City Assault:
Renamed to Forlorn Hope
Requires drill II/Buffalo LoinsRemove access via the Shock line-10% Combat Strength+100% when attacking cities

Total bonuses if all 4 drill + Forlorn Hope promotions are taken:
+10% CS+100% when attacking cities+60% damage reduction vs cities

proposal amended:
drill line now gives 15% city damage reduction per level
Forlorn hope dropped from shock line (but remains on buffalo line)
Forlorn Hope CS penalty lowered to -10%CS

-15% per level is plenty. At drill II, that's almost equivalent to the -33% that city assault gives now, with access to a further 15%. That level of reduction will be sufficient to be felt during a siege. As @Stalker0 's number above indicate, 20% reduction each level would increase the unit's ability to remain in the fight by so much that the unit's damage output would almost double. Empowering melee units to that degree is not the stated aim.

You forgot to update the proposal's total bonuses (second quote). It should be +20% CS, +100% CS when attacking cities and 45% damage reduction vs cities.

 

[Stalker0]

What @Stalker0 did not factor in is the attack from the garrison (and other units), which usually hurts more than the city ranged strike, especially when damage reduction (vs cities) is in effect.

This was intentional. I generally find that the AI doesn't attack with melee garrisons the vast majority of the time. Its true that ranged garrisons are a whole different ballgame, sometimes the aI uses them, sometimes not.

 

[azum4roll]

This was intentional. I generally find that the AI doesn't attack with melee garrisons the vast majority of the time. Its true that ranged garrisons are a whole different ballgame, sometimes the aI uses them, sometimes not.

AI was specifically taught to use ranged units as garrisons.

 

[Stalker0]

AI was specifically taught to use ranged units as garrisons.

that's not what I see in practice, I see both melee and ranged garrisons frequently used.