grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
we are past 24hrs for KB's got it, so M60 or KB can pick it up now. just post before playing.
7 grams - DG with AI Armies
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Kaiser_Berger
Terran Emporer
My bad, I have really been slipping on the got its lately. I've got it.
Kaiser_Berger
Terran Emporer
Preturn- We look alright.
T1 950
Byz and Inca have signed peace.
T2 925
A people known as the Ottomans complete SoZ. El-Amarna founded.
T4 875
Hieraconpolis founded.
T6 825
Our valiant galley "Leap of Faith" plunges eastward into the ocean. We have iron connected.
T7 800
Leap of Faith leeps into the waiting arms of death.
T9 750
Everyone now has Construction, we should be able to pick it up soon.
Summary
We are coming along. I have us building a few swords to give our small military a bit better punch, be they can still be changed to horses if you prefer. Next turn we get currency, and we should be able to pick up our missing techs with it. I'd say keep building our military up before we switch over to markets. After then end of the next set we may be ready for a quick war.
T1 950
Byz and Inca have signed peace.
T2 925
A people known as the Ottomans complete SoZ. El-Amarna founded.
T4 875
Hieraconpolis founded.
T6 825
Our valiant galley "Leap of Faith" plunges eastward into the ocean. We have iron connected.
T7 800
Leap of Faith leeps into the waiting arms of death.
T9 750
Everyone now has Construction, we should be able to pick it up soon.
Summary
We are coming along. I have us building a few swords to give our small military a bit better punch, be they can still be changed to horses if you prefer. Next turn we get currency, and we should be able to pick up our missing techs with it. I'd say keep building our military up before we switch over to markets. After then end of the next set we may be ready for a quick war.
M60A3TTS
Ex-treadhead
Looks good. I got it.
We are making progress. I have a few suggestions.
1. Change Thebes to produce a Settler and settle tile as indicated on map. You could move the citizen working the hills to the fish to gain another gold too.
2. When the "Big Picture" becomes available make sure to go to F4 and trade Currency to the other tribes. We do not want anyone else to get it before we can trade it and there is nothing to gain from waiting until our turn starts. Since they have a nearly perfect distribution of assets (for our needs) I suggest the following sequence if available:
a. Trade Currency for Construction and all the gold we can get from Byzantines.
b. Trade Currency for CoL and furs from Inca.
c. Sell Currency for as much gold as possible to Spain (have 172 gold now)
3. I prefer Horseman to Swordsmen. So would like us to change production to them. This is a major decision so we need to agree on what we are to produce.
1. Change Thebes to produce a Settler and settle tile as indicated on map. You could move the citizen working the hills to the fish to gain another gold too.
2. When the "Big Picture" becomes available make sure to go to F4 and trade Currency to the other tribes. We do not want anyone else to get it before we can trade it and there is nothing to gain from waiting until our turn starts. Since they have a nearly perfect distribution of assets (for our needs) I suggest the following sequence if available:
a. Trade Currency for Construction and all the gold we can get from Byzantines.
b. Trade Currency for CoL and furs from Inca.
c. Sell Currency for as much gold as possible to Spain (have 172 gold now)
3. I prefer Horseman to Swordsmen. So would like us to change production to them. This is a major decision so we need to agree on what we are to produce.
Beorn-eL-Feared
Idiot riding pedals
We are spread a bit thin and long, so I'd rather have horses here as well. It'll be easier to punch quick wars with Theo and Pacha with horses, too.
M60A3TTS
Ex-treadhead
I think Wotan's first two points are fine. As fas as builds go, I'm not one for mass changes of a previous player's builds. The debate of horses vs. swords is an old one and everyone on the team I'm sure is capable with kicking butt with either.
M60A3TTS
Ex-treadhead
The save at 550BC
Pre turn all looks ok. Switch Thebes to a settler. Hit enter.
IBT- Currency in, trade it to Theo for construction, CoL and 45g. Furs from the Incas and all 172 gold from Isabella. Thebes settler>horse. Start min run on mono and lux to zero.
Turn 1 (730BC) Theo gets feudalism as her free tech. Move settler from Thebes out.
IBT- Quiet. Incan galley moving south.
Turn 2 (710BC) Worker stuff
IBT- Same as last IBT
Turn 3 (690BC) Move settler into position.
IBT- Nada
Turn 4 (670BC) Found Abydos
IBT- Forbidden Palace Alert
Turn 5 (650BC) Quiet
IBT- Byz building Suns
Turn 6 (630BC) Zzzzz
IBT- Memphis rax>sword
Turn 7 (610BC) Quiet
IBT- Spanish building the GW.
Turn 8 (590BC) Heliopolis needs a taxman
IBT- Maya finishes GLight. Byblios temple>harbor
Turn 9 (570BC) Lux to 10% now as Thebes is size 7.
IBT- Spain finishes the GWall.
Turn 10 (550BC) Workers move a bit and done.
Post turn: Very slow going at this point. We have a couple horses and 3 swords. Theo will not give up Feudalism at this point. We have a horse monopoly.
Pre turn all looks ok. Switch Thebes to a settler. Hit enter.
IBT- Currency in, trade it to Theo for construction, CoL and 45g. Furs from the Incas and all 172 gold from Isabella. Thebes settler>horse. Start min run on mono and lux to zero.
Turn 1 (730BC) Theo gets feudalism as her free tech. Move settler from Thebes out.
IBT- Quiet. Incan galley moving south.
Turn 2 (710BC) Worker stuff
IBT- Same as last IBT
Turn 3 (690BC) Move settler into position.
IBT- Nada
Turn 4 (670BC) Found Abydos
IBT- Forbidden Palace Alert
Turn 5 (650BC) Quiet
IBT- Byz building Suns
Turn 6 (630BC) Zzzzz
IBT- Memphis rax>sword
Turn 7 (610BC) Quiet
IBT- Spanish building the GW.
Turn 8 (590BC) Heliopolis needs a taxman
IBT- Maya finishes GLight. Byblios temple>harbor
Turn 9 (570BC) Lux to 10% now as Thebes is size 7.
IBT- Spain finishes the GWall.
Turn 10 (550BC) Workers move a bit and done.
Post turn: Very slow going at this point. We have a couple horses and 3 swords. Theo will not give up Feudalism at this point. We have a horse monopoly.
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pre-turn:
we are at peace with every one.
poor military (weak against all): 3 horses + 2 swords + 2 spears + 3 archers + 6 warriors + 6 workers.
capital produce 9 shields. MM it to 10.
change builds from temples to barracks.
reduce science to 0% and replaces taxmac to scientist (+1gpt)
start move forces toward by
1. nothing much
IBT. byz get monarchy and start HG.
2. nothing much
3. move forces south.
4. rush temple in abydos.
5. inca got horses.
rush temple in Hieraconpolis
6. upgrade one reg warrior to sword
7. move forces and prepare to attack next turn.
8. declare war on byz
battle on Verna:
horse 4/4 vs spear 3/3 --> horse 4/4
horse 4/4 vs spear 3/3 --> spear 1/3
horse 4/4 vs spear 1/3 --> spear 2/4
horse 4/4 vs spear 2/4 --> horse 2/4. verna + dromon taken and destroyed.
9. battle for Adrianople:
sword 3/3 vs spear 3/3 --> sword 1/3
sword 4/4 vs spear 3/3 --> sword 2/4
there are still major forces.
IBT - spain complete ToA.
Maya complete HG
we lost furs.
10. buy furs for for 10gpt from inca
sword 4/4 vs archer 3/3 --> sword 4/5
archer 4/4 vs archer 3/3 --> our archer 1/4
summery.
started war with byz. so far so good: razed a city and lost 2 horses.
byz do not have iron or horses.
I did not ally anybody against them because:
1. byz did not have money to ally against us.
2. the AI was too far away.
I started setting forces to attack Smyrna in two turns.
Adrianople had more defenders than I thought so I haven't taken it yet. I suggest re-grouping their and attack in a few turns.
noth that byz trade network is still up due to harbors.
I suggest sueing for peace when it is available to get a tech out of it.
we are at peace with every one.
poor military (weak against all): 3 horses + 2 swords + 2 spears + 3 archers + 6 warriors + 6 workers.
capital produce 9 shields. MM it to 10.
change builds from temples to barracks.
reduce science to 0% and replaces taxmac to scientist (+1gpt)
start move forces toward by
1. nothing much
IBT. byz get monarchy and start HG.
2. nothing much
3. move forces south.
4. rush temple in abydos.
5. inca got horses.
rush temple in Hieraconpolis
6. upgrade one reg warrior to sword
7. move forces and prepare to attack next turn.
8. declare war on byz
battle on Verna:
horse 4/4 vs spear 3/3 --> horse 4/4
horse 4/4 vs spear 3/3 --> spear 1/3
horse 4/4 vs spear 1/3 --> spear 2/4
horse 4/4 vs spear 2/4 --> horse 2/4. verna + dromon taken and destroyed.
9. battle for Adrianople:
sword 3/3 vs spear 3/3 --> sword 1/3
sword 4/4 vs spear 3/3 --> sword 2/4
there are still major forces.
IBT - spain complete ToA.
Maya complete HG
we lost furs.
10. buy furs for for 10gpt from inca
sword 4/4 vs archer 3/3 --> sword 4/5
archer 4/4 vs archer 3/3 --> our archer 1/4
summery.
started war with byz. so far so good: razed a city and lost 2 horses.
byz do not have iron or horses.
I did not ally anybody against them because:
1. byz did not have money to ally against us.
2. the AI was too far away.
I started setting forces to attack Smyrna in two turns.
Adrianople had more defenders than I thought so I haven't taken it yet. I suggest re-grouping their and attack in a few turns.
noth that byz trade network is still up due to harbors.
I suggest sueing for peace when it is available to get a tech out of it.
M60A3TTS
Ex-treadhead
Wotan, I believe you're up, BeF on deck.
Beorn-eL-Feared
Idiot riding pedals
Thanks for reminding, I wouldn't have noticed 
I couldn't find the time to finish my turn set yesterday evening so I had to play the last few turns today. Sorry about the delay. Nothing really important has occured "mapwise" so no map. Hope yoy are not to disappointed. i could post one later if you still want it?
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Turn log
0 350BC Pre-flight
A couple of MMing issues. Pi-Ramesses can gain a food while still producing 2 shields. Byblos can gain a shield as it is just one food short of growing, no need to produce +2 food.
1 330BC.
Nothing worth reporting
2 310BC
Thebes MH -> HM
Memphis HM -> HM
Smyrna captured.
3 290BC
Heliopolis HM -> HM
Byblos Barracks -> HM
Killed an Archer, HM elite!
4 270BC
Nothing important.
IBT: Elite HM (on Mountain) defends vs. Archer but no Leader.
5 250BC
Thebes HM -> HM
6 230BC
Adrianople captured.
Byzantines knows Feudalism.
7 210BC
Memphis HM->HM
Pi-Ramesses Barracks -> HM
El-Amarna Barracks -> HM
8 190BC
Attacked Nicaea but failed to take it, 3 Horsemen survived out of the four attacking and 2 Spearmen killed so I am not that disappointed after all.
9 170BC
Moved in position to Attack Caesarea. Retreating from Nicaea.
10 150BC
Caesarea captured, 5 Workers captured (2 Settlers).
After action report:
Byzantines are not willing to part with Feudalism for peace. Maybe after we take Nicaea and Heraclea they will have a different answer.
Army: 7HMs and 5 SMs. With the reinforcements arriving in the next few turns this should be enough to deal with Byzantines.
A couple of Settlers would be nice. Maybe take one out of Thebes when it is at size 9 and do not shrink to size 6 again?
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Turn log
0 350BC Pre-flight
A couple of MMing issues. Pi-Ramesses can gain a food while still producing 2 shields. Byblos can gain a shield as it is just one food short of growing, no need to produce +2 food.
1 330BC.
Nothing worth reporting
2 310BC
Thebes MH -> HM
Memphis HM -> HM
Smyrna captured.
3 290BC
Heliopolis HM -> HM
Byblos Barracks -> HM
Killed an Archer, HM elite!
4 270BC
Nothing important.
IBT: Elite HM (on Mountain) defends vs. Archer but no Leader.
5 250BC
Thebes HM -> HM
6 230BC
Adrianople captured.
Byzantines knows Feudalism.
7 210BC
Memphis HM->HM
Pi-Ramesses Barracks -> HM
El-Amarna Barracks -> HM
8 190BC
Attacked Nicaea but failed to take it, 3 Horsemen survived out of the four attacking and 2 Spearmen killed so I am not that disappointed after all.
9 170BC
Moved in position to Attack Caesarea. Retreating from Nicaea.
10 150BC
Caesarea captured, 5 Workers captured (2 Settlers).
After action report:
Byzantines are not willing to part with Feudalism for peace. Maybe after we take Nicaea and Heraclea they will have a different answer.
Army: 7HMs and 5 SMs. With the reinforcements arriving in the next few turns this should be enough to deal with Byzantines.
A couple of Settlers would be nice. Maybe take one out of Thebes when it is at size 9 and do not shrink to size 6 again?
M60A3TTS
Ex-treadhead
BeF, you're up, grams on deck.
Beorn-eL-Feared
Idiot riding pedals
Indeed, sorry, was working yesterday 
I'm playing them right now.
I'm playing them right now.
Beorn-eL-Feared
Idiot riding pedals
Pre-Turns: Spices and 7g for wines from spain and we can reduce lux a notch.
T1: Move onto Nicae with the healed up horses, bulk of the SM healing down in Caesara.
IT: What an annoying Dromon.
T2: We need some MP, so Memphis HM->WC. Lost 1HM 1 SM taking Nicae
T3: Move onto Heraclae with the healed troops from home
T4: 3 injured arms, another HM down, Heraclae stands. Troops are starting to gather by constantinople.
IT: OMG the Dromon
T5: 1 HM dies, 1 promotes taking Heraclae.
IT: Disease at Abydos =/
T6: Move onto Constantinople. Theodora is close to signing for Feudalism, but not quite yet. My 2 cents that Treizbond will need to fall. Btw she is up Monarchy, Feudalism and Republic, so we have the total choice so as to what to take from her as a government tech.
T7: We get a MGL from some random scoundrel reg archer running up the field. As far as I'm concerned, we can win this war easily and then use the army for putting 3 knights in, so I will build army (we have another elite who could give birth) but not fill.
IT:
T8: Byblos HM-> Courthouse. We could use a FP somewhere too, since we soon could afford a break in military production.
Constantinople falls and we inherit the colossus, but we will need more drastic measures in the near future
to get Feudalism from her.
T9: We take out that last continent town and she will ponder for Feudalism. Now, however, is the question "To republic or not to republic?" coming to mind.
If we want to republic things up, we might as well pay the little cash she wants for it (253g, she has a monopoly) and then get a discount on Feudalism with that. If we don't, we can have gold along with Feudalism.
My vote for Republic, but I shouldn't have to be alone deciding this at all, so have the extra turn, Grahamian.
T1: Move onto Nicae with the healed up horses, bulk of the SM healing down in Caesara.
IT: What an annoying Dromon.
T2: We need some MP, so Memphis HM->WC. Lost 1HM 1 SM taking Nicae
T3: Move onto Heraclae with the healed troops from home
T4: 3 injured arms, another HM down, Heraclae stands. Troops are starting to gather by constantinople.
IT: OMG the Dromon
T5: 1 HM dies, 1 promotes taking Heraclae.
IT: Disease at Abydos =/
T6: Move onto Constantinople. Theodora is close to signing for Feudalism, but not quite yet. My 2 cents that Treizbond will need to fall. Btw she is up Monarchy, Feudalism and Republic, so we have the total choice so as to what to take from her as a government tech.
T7: We get a MGL from some random scoundrel reg archer running up the field. As far as I'm concerned, we can win this war easily and then use the army for putting 3 knights in, so I will build army (we have another elite who could give birth) but not fill.
IT:
T8: Byblos HM-> Courthouse. We could use a FP somewhere too, since we soon could afford a break in military production.
Constantinople falls and we inherit the colossus, but we will need more drastic measures in the near future
to get Feudalism from her.T9: We take out that last continent town and she will ponder for Feudalism. Now, however, is the question "To republic or not to republic?" coming to mind.
If we want to republic things up, we might as well pay the little cash she wants for it (253g, she has a monopoly) and then get a discount on Feudalism with that. If we don't, we can have gold along with Feudalism.
My vote for Republic, but I shouldn't have to be alone deciding this at all, so have the extra turn, Grahamian.
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
got it, but may need a swap. if I don't post 10 turns by Tuesday at this time, please swap me with KB. I will be away on business till Thursday but should have a computer to play with me (however, this is not 100%).
M60A3TTS
Ex-treadhead
It's tempting to take feudalism because I'm eager to have another go at the Incans. If we can pillage their iron source and fort a couple pikes on it, it's MI vs. spears. If we wait too long, he'll be upgrading all his troops.
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