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AC Mod Redux

Discussion in 'Civ3 - Completed Scenarios' started by SoAB, Sep 29, 2008.

  1. SoAB

    SoAB Chieftain

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    First of All, I'd like to apologize...

    I know my tech support hasn't been great (down right ***** honestly) and I apologize. I was improving certain situations in my life and that's where my mind has been at as of late. I'm not trying to make excuse, if you put a mod out there you should support it. But I'm just saying where my priorities are at this time.

    But that's not point of this post.

    The point is that the final version of the AC mod has been realeased! This it! I'm done with it. Only thing wrong with it is that the civlopedia is incomplete... but it's not buggy.

    You won't crash just by looking at. But I wanted to do an immersive/fan ficition world civilapedia kind of thing but that wasn't going to happen.
    That's just way too much more work for one man operation at this juncture in time.

    So this version of the mod:
    http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=177346

    It's obsolete! Don't even bother. I don't even have that version of the mod on my computer anymore.

    But here are the links to the new mod files.

    At Atomic Gamer:

    ACMod files:
    http://www.atomicgamer.com/file.php?id=72396

    CivConquest file:
    http://www.atomicgamer.com/file.php?id=72398

    At Mediafire: (Use this if your connection is less reliable. The mod is broken up into 3 parts, each less than 100mb)

    http://www.mediafire.com/?xjsmc9tpydi

    http://www.mediafire.com/?ildrzsmjblm

    http://www.mediafire.com/?m0ehpjgxhjj

    I know my installation process isn't the smoothest but hopefully this will be simple.

    There are 3 files that have to be downloaded. The first has the "ACMod8b" folder which has the Art and Text folder.

    Now read closely... The Art/ Units folder is empty. All the terrain files and folders, biq files, text files and folders have their files except the Units folder.

    Here's where the other two files come in: The other two files contain all the game's units files and folders in two seperate WinRAR packages. 60mb+ each. Just simply unzip (dump) those files into the Art/Unit folder. And that's it.

    That's the complete ACMod8b Scenario. Don't forget to ACMod8b Conquest biq out of the file and put it in your Scenarios directory.

    And I'll make this promise to everyone. I'll be here for tech support for the next two weeks. If there's any issue, problems questions, post it up and I'll help you out.

    Because if my mod works perfectly with me and my crappy 5 year old comp, it should work for you.

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    *I'm going to post up new pictures of the mod later today. So hold tight.
    But you can use the old mod as a reference on what it looks like. But I promise you, it's a different feel.*

    http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=152599&d=1178489618
    http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=152602&d=1178489812


    As for the new mod.... Forget everything about the old mod. Like I said, it's obsolete.

    So this is it! The last and final AC mod of mine, the most balanced, the most thought out, the most entertaining version of the AC-civilization saga. I must admit, it was a fun love affair but it is one that must end. I hope yall enjoy it! Because I’m done.

    The Ace Combat Mod, version 8!

    Changes…

    Where to start? First we start by throwing out everything you knew about the first two mods! This mod is both simpler and more complex at the same time (but it is simpler) so forget everything about the first 2 mods. Just let them go, they were inferior products!

    A) The biggest change to the formula was the overhaul of the way the entire mod worked. I aimed for a competitive and more democratic mod…. In order to do that, I had to make a scenario map. That’s right, no more random generated maps! The actual and fictional AC territories are back and they have their own home turf.

    Each of the 22 civilizations has 3 starter cities with high culture values. What’s so important about these home cities?

    B) Cultural Ingenuity!

    Each of these cities has a cultural resource- An ingenuity. A permanent strategic resource of which you can trade with other civs. And what’s so valuable about these ingenuities you say?

    C) Arms Dealing!

    Without these resources, you could not build certain types of units or wonders. Sick of Yuktobanian Mig-29s ruining your day? Make a ingenuity trade with the Verusans for some “Versuan Ingenuity” and build some Versuan F-2s- they’re defensive abilities are a bit tougher than the Mig’s offensive abilities so you should gain air superiority in no time.

    Then again… the Yukes might decide to deploy their Su-27s…. Where the heck did they get Su-27s?

    D) Strategic Production and Strategic Bombing.

    That’s right. Autoproduced units are back but they even they can be stopped. Like the previous versions, exceptionally strong (and otherwise unbalanced and abuseable) units are produced from improvements. But unlike previous versions those buildings can be destroyed.

    How?

    Well the unit production improvements are built upon “home base” small wonders. For example, the “Versuan Flogger Tactics” (builds Mig-27 floggers) improvement requires first that the “Versuan Air Combat School” small wonder be built.

    As a result, only one of these “Flogger Tactics” can be built per civilization. But at the same time your enemies can destroy the “Flogger Tactics” improvement and stop the auto production of Mig-27 attack aircraft… well until you rebuild the facility.

    This “strategic bombing” increases the values of air strikes since you can deny the enemy continued use of a key unit. Not only are certain types of aircraft “built” under this system but powerful warships (Ageis Cruiser for ex.) are as well. Infact, the naval aspect of the game is heavily reliant of auto production…

    E) Full Spectrum Warfare.

    This mod breaks down combat into 3 areas each with it’s own unique style of operating… Land, Sea and Air.

    Air units operate much the same way vanilla civ does- Aircraft (units) become obsolete with technology and must be upgraded to keep up. Unlike vanilla civ, aircraft tend to be much more powerful and useful. They are also privy to the arms tradings system since most types cannot be built without a corresponding cultural ingenuity.

    Aircraft from certain cultures tend to have unique traits that separate themselves from the pack. For example, you want something high tech, expensive yet dominating. Buy Belkan. What cheap fighters that are good interceptors but can’t hold their own on a strike mission, buy Yuktobanian. You want something in the middle? Go Usean, Anean or Osean. They’re all have their own strengths and weakness, just read the civlopedia.

    Sea Units don’t get upgraded or become obsolete for that matter. Infact the only buildable sea units will be frigates, light carriers and patrol submarines. So where’s the fun in that? The fun comes from the vast array of warships that can be built from your “home base” wonders. Build the “Light Shipyard Old World (OW)” and you’ll have access to build “Bars DDG (Destroyer) Dock” improvement. Later on in the game you’ll get access to Kirov cruiser and Kongo cruiser docks. Build the “Fleet HQ” small wonder and you’ll find yourself building super carriers and nuclear attack subs. The fun just continues.

    But don’t procrastinate. Your opponents will want to build theses as much as you.

    Ground Units work similar to the naval ones in that they don’t get obsolete or replaced. They stay useful from beginning to the game to the end. But ground combat has more going for them.

    Ground units are more or less “class” units. They fulfill a certain role ingame and using a mixed and balanced force will be the key to success, especially since there are certain limitations to building units (explained later.)

    Infantry and light tanks are you basic ground units. The infantry types differ from civ to civ but the generally the easiest to produce and the most flexible. They’re good on offensive and defense. Light tanks are the fastest land units and in the game and make good scouts where they’re outclassed by heavier units. However, they can’t hold ground, they are just incapable of doing so.

    Amphibious tanks and APCs act like their infantry brethren in that the tanks are good for attack and the APCs hold ground. They’re a bit more expensive but unlike the MBTs and Mech Infantry of later eras they are the only amphibious units (besides auto produced helicopters) of the game.

    Main Battle Tanks and Mech Infantry are the heavy hitters they’re expensive but well worth the price of men and material….

    Did I just say these things cost population? Yes I did.

    F) Population Costs.

    All units cost population. Just a little something to add challenge to the scenario and to prevent the 1000 unit spams you can get at the end of the game. Every units is that more valuable since you can literally fight wars of attrition now, if you running low on “volunteers” I suggest you stick with training infantry since they cost 1 population. Armor, ships and aircraft costs 2 or 3 depending on the unit you’re building.

    Think of the pop costs as the total amount of people (food and resources) needed to train, supply and maintain one battalion of “X” unit in the field and you’ll get the idea.

    Unit pop costs also make strategic bombing that much more valuable since you can sap the enemy of the will (or the people) to fight.

    G) Transportation systems

    Roads have been overhauled in the scenario as well… infact there are just roads. They are no railroads (although the rail road graphic is used). I found that railroads were too cheap and too easy by all the parties using them. So now a civ has to rely on transport units to move large amounts of forces around quickly… better start building transport aircraft.

    Still though, with the slowest units (infantry) moving with a speed of 3 moves per turns, don’t expect a trench war.

    Oh yeah, each civilization has a unique way of dealing with their transportation problems just like they have super weapons or ingenuities…

    F) Superweapons, Ace Squadrons, Transport Systems.

    Civilizations have their own free tech “also named Ingenuity” that generally (there’s a few exceptions) corresponds with their cultural ingenuity.

    These free techs (Belkan, Osean, Anean, Usean, Erusiean, Verusan and Yuktobanian) allow the construction of unique wonders….

    For example, the Oceans (Aurelians, Lesapins and Ustians) can build a “Tactical Airlift Command” small wonder to auto produce C-1 Albatross transport planes to aid strategic mobility. Later they can build the “Wizard Squadron” Great wonder to gain auto produce ace fighter units and the “Arkbird Space Elevator” great wonder to produce the all mighty Arkbird super weapon.

    About the great wonders though…. Only one nation can have them so you’d better be the first!

    H) Final Notes and thoughts. There are a lot more subtle changes and nuisances that you just have to find out by playing the game. One word of advice, if you see a small wonder that can be built and you don’t know what it produces… build it. You won’t regret it later.
     
  2. SoAB

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    Allright, here are some pictures from the current build of the mod...

    http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=190018&stc=1&d=1222718133

    The first pic shows you a bit of how the computer handles the arms dealing system. The deal it and they deal it well. Wars are often caused by not sharing these resources.

    In this pic, Yuktobania is the CPU. The use everything from the homegrown Su-34 bomber to the Usean Tornado to the Verusan F-2 fighter. What the CPU uses generally depends on which aircraft is the more powerfull and what resources they have availiable. So you can expect all kinds of crazy unit mixes, just like in Ace Combat games actually.

    Oh yeah, note the world map. This is a late game pic so most of the competition has been dealt with.

    The second pic...

    http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=190019&stc=1&d=1222718133

    Another late game pic. But unfortunately for the Swaze (pink) I've taken over half the world by now. Still they can put up a bit of a fight. The AH-64, Air Calvary and Mi-24 are all auto produced. So even the weakest nations can put up a fight if they have the resources and invest in small wonders.

    And yes that is a walker in the army. The time span of the mod is in 1970-2050 era. So they'res a little bit of futuristic tech in here. Plus countries in the AC universe tend to be a few years ahead of ours.

    The third pic...

    http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=190020&stc=1&d=1222718133

    Special Forces are a factor in this game. They're another autobuild unit and are invisibile to all enemies except detector units like destroyers, submarines, other special forces, ect. (I know, not a perfect system but it works).

    They're pretty tough and airdroppable so you can do a lot of damage with these guys. Amphibious attackers too.
     
  3. SoAB

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    I almost forgot. This scenario is best played with "cultural conversions" turned off and "accelerated production" turned on. But you don't have to play it that way but the scenario was designed with those options in mind.
     
  4. SoAB

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    A few more screenshots...

    http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=190134&stc=1&d=1222830921

    Land Unit samples. The mechs are quite powerfull but autobuilt units. They're availiable later in the game. I tried to ensure that your reasearch pays off at all times, especially in the fourth era.


    http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=190135&stc=1&d=1222830921

    Air Unit sample. If you haven't noticed, this is an airpower mod. I suppose I just needed an excuse to put to use Wyrmshadow, TopGun and Bebro air units. Special thanks also to Vinegar Joe, Bjornlo, Riptide, Ares de Borg, NavyDawg and anybody else's I can't think of right now, whose units that are in this mod.

    I also thank Rhye for his beautifull terrain mod. It really breathes life into civ.

    http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=190136&stc=1&d=1222830921

    Sea Unit Sample. Yes the Aiagion superweapon of Ace Combat 6 fame is in this game. It and the Arkbird (from AC5) are naval units in this scenario. They're both autobuilt by a Great Wonder so be the first to build it!

    http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=190137&stc=1&d=1222830964

    Diplomcay in action. In the early game when you've just made contact with your rivals the AI will deal with you pretty fairly. Belkan Ingenuity for Yuktobanian Ingenuity. One for one. But as wars progress and hatred brews it will become harder to trade Ingenuity without paying an arm and leg. These ingenuitys are the big resource in the game.

    Titanium, alluminum, steel, raw materials and rubber also are important. Luxuries (like lumber) have revenue and production bonuses so also may make or break a deal.

    As for the Hertori... they are a made up faction and are not apart of AC cannon. Nations in AC games tend to mimic real life (for ex. Belka=Germany, Osea=America, Yuktobania=Russia). In this scenario the Hertori are the mid-eastern like faction. They're special unit is the RPG guerilla, an improved version of the RPG trooper.

    Word of warning if you're playing as a neighbor... these guys tend to kick ass.
     
  5. mickyd47

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    downloading now cant say im a fan of ac but this looks good
     
  6. Wyrmshadow

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    In this screen shot I see a catamaran carrier.
    Picture

    I think I remember Neomega making that one. Is it anywhere for DL?? if not, could you email it to me? My name at yahoo plz.
     
  7. Moosezilla

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    thanks media fire *******!! will not let me dl two of the files! could you put it on atomic?
     
  8. SoAB

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    Yeah that is Neomega's unit. He was in the process of making a railgun battleship too but I'm not sure whether he finished it or not. But here's the link to unit, the WarCarrier.

    http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=115090

    And mossezilla, you're having trouble with media fire? What exactly happens when you try to download them, I'm curious.

    But I can put it on atomic too as an alternate link, no problem. It's just going to take a minute, cause I'm using wireless internet.

    I'm also considering uploading a music pack as well with tracks from the series. So look out for that too.
     
  9. Moosezilla

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    Just tried them again and my log in was "invalid". I think problem began when I tried to dl all three at once.
     
  10. SoAB

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    Moosezilla Grognard Warlord

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    Thank you. 10-23-08 oops! playing first time, have not added "A" or "B". went to civilpedia and pressed "M" crashed because of some smallj thingy not being there. Should I add "units A" and "Units B"? If so I don't have "B".
     
  13. Moosezilla

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    new post to get your attn. Sorry. Yes it did crash just by looking at it.However if you find "art\cilrlopedia\icons\units\MetalGearRexJSmall.pcx" and copy it and rename it to "art\civilopedia\units\Metal Gear RexSmallj.pcx" it seems to be fixed.
     

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