Acid_04: The final frontier
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acidsatyr
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I'll cancel that deal asap
yeah, two of us would do battles, Mut would always do a round of crazy whipping...I also have to beg for some cash every time haha
roster
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acidsatyr AKA Seth <--NEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mutineer AKA The Scorpion King
ThERat AKA Imhotep
Blake AKA Duamutef
Mark AKA Wepwawet
Uberfish AKA Sobek
yeah, two of us would do battles, Mut would always do a round of crazy whipping...I also have to beg for some cash every time haha
roster
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acidsatyr AKA Seth <--NEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mutineer AKA The Scorpion King
ThERat AKA Imhotep
Blake AKA Duamutef
Mark AKA Wepwawet
Uberfish AKA Sobek
acidsatyr
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turn 0.
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As all my turns begin, I beg 50 from Japan. Serious money.
OK, assign two scientists in Washington.
Two workers at Thebes start farming grassland. Both elephants used their moves so I think ivory will be pillages by Roosevelt chariot next turn.
Japan has a lot in its hands right now!
turn 1
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America's archer and chariot retreat trough Wang's territory. Chasing them with elephants.
Cancel horse deal with Shaka.
Capital works farms for max growth.
Catapult whipped in New York.
Philadelphia starts courthouse.
I switch to Hindu. I also switch to Pacifism and Caste System.
I did this for two reasons, first, Wang is pleased and I tried to beg for his 150, but didn't succeed. Two, Washington has ~75% to get out GE and 25 for scientist. The problem is that it takes 26 turns to do so. Capital takes about 15 to give us another GS (75%) or GA (25%). I don’t like this, and Washington won’t catch up on this soon. Now, next turn Washington will grow one more size I will assign extra scientists.
I will switch back to slavery in 5 turns. And probably go to no religion again.
turn 2
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America's Archer and chariot enter back to our territory, and our elephants pick them up easily.
Two extra scientists are assigned in Washington, and we get our next great person in exactly 5 turns.
turn 3
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Shaka switched to Christianity!
turn 4
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Nada.
Chopping for courthouses.
Moving an elephant and catapult to help chariots finish of Roosevelt.
turn 5
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Capital starts forge for extra happiness/production.
Extra spices connected, trade them away for 5gpt to Shaka.
Nothing interesting happening, no trading, no whipping yet.
turn 6
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Civil Service is in, start on Paper.
There is limit on trading with everyone except Wang, so i give him C.S. and some extra cash for his Machinery.
I guess it will again come down to Muts whipping for units hahaha!
turn 7
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We get GS in Washington. We use if for education or academy.
OK, now that we got GS, i switch from Hindu to Tao. Just to scout Ragnars cities for a next few turns (He has all of his units stationed in one city, other are empty!. We shuold consider keeping Wang as our only trading partner and go after Ragnar), and to try to get Him pleased again, so he trades with us again. Which probably wont happen, but it beats having no religion. Wang is cautious now, but that’s ok, And Japan is cautious. But we don get anything for sharing his religion, and he is locked up in "We have enough in our hands right now" already anyway.
Also switch to Br., Slavery, and Organized religion so we can spread Tao little easier, if we ever decide to use it again in our cities.
Whip two catapults, courthouse.
turn 8
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Whip Mace
- As Im doing this my Civ game freezes for XXX time, and I have to restart from 3 moves back and play them again. Extremely, extremely irritating.
Back to this move again.
Whip Barracks in Boston.
Ragnar asks to open borders, I refuse.
turn 9
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More cat whips , one mace whip.
Turn 10
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Whip Maceman and X-bow. Scientists is in capital, we could use him for academy, I leave this for discussion. Paper in 2
I suggest we farm over all those cottages in Washington.
Pressed enter accidentally but didn’t touch anything!
Our power graph is.....take a look.
Mut, watch for that lonely Wang’s mace, he might declare on Roosevelt! Just send some chariots.
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As all my turns begin, I beg 50 from Japan. Serious money.
OK, assign two scientists in Washington.
Two workers at Thebes start farming grassland. Both elephants used their moves so I think ivory will be pillages by Roosevelt chariot next turn.
Japan has a lot in its hands right now!
turn 1
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America's archer and chariot retreat trough Wang's territory. Chasing them with elephants.
Cancel horse deal with Shaka.
Capital works farms for max growth.
Catapult whipped in New York.
Philadelphia starts courthouse.
I switch to Hindu. I also switch to Pacifism and Caste System.
I did this for two reasons, first, Wang is pleased and I tried to beg for his 150, but didn't succeed. Two, Washington has ~75% to get out GE and 25 for scientist. The problem is that it takes 26 turns to do so. Capital takes about 15 to give us another GS (75%) or GA (25%). I don’t like this, and Washington won’t catch up on this soon. Now, next turn Washington will grow one more size I will assign extra scientists.
I will switch back to slavery in 5 turns. And probably go to no religion again.
turn 2
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America's Archer and chariot enter back to our territory, and our elephants pick them up easily.
Two extra scientists are assigned in Washington, and we get our next great person in exactly 5 turns.
turn 3
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Shaka switched to Christianity!
turn 4
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Nada.
Chopping for courthouses.
Moving an elephant and catapult to help chariots finish of Roosevelt.
turn 5
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Capital starts forge for extra happiness/production.
Extra spices connected, trade them away for 5gpt to Shaka.
Nothing interesting happening, no trading, no whipping yet.
turn 6
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Civil Service is in, start on Paper.
There is limit on trading with everyone except Wang, so i give him C.S. and some extra cash for his Machinery.
I guess it will again come down to Muts whipping for units hahaha!
turn 7
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We get GS in Washington. We use if for education or academy.
OK, now that we got GS, i switch from Hindu to Tao. Just to scout Ragnars cities for a next few turns (He has all of his units stationed in one city, other are empty!. We shuold consider keeping Wang as our only trading partner and go after Ragnar), and to try to get Him pleased again, so he trades with us again. Which probably wont happen, but it beats having no religion. Wang is cautious now, but that’s ok, And Japan is cautious. But we don get anything for sharing his religion, and he is locked up in "We have enough in our hands right now" already anyway.
Also switch to Br., Slavery, and Organized religion so we can spread Tao little easier, if we ever decide to use it again in our cities.
Whip two catapults, courthouse.
turn 8
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Whip Mace
- As Im doing this my Civ game freezes for XXX time, and I have to restart from 3 moves back and play them again. Extremely, extremely irritating.
Back to this move again.
Whip Barracks in Boston.
Ragnar asks to open borders, I refuse.
turn 9
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More cat whips , one mace whip.
Turn 10
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Whip Maceman and X-bow. Scientists is in capital, we could use him for academy, I leave this for discussion. Paper in 2
I suggest we farm over all those cottages in Washington.
Pressed enter accidentally but didn’t touch anything!
Our power graph is.....take a look.
Mut, watch for that lonely Wang’s mace, he might declare on Roosevelt! Just send some chariots.
About the horse trade - Shaka is aggressive and it's better for us that he builds horse units which we have Elephants to counter anyway than melee units. I agree we need to be careful with him, because he is a psycho and will take bribes to attack even civs he is pleased with, but we may be able to take advantage of this behaviour somewhere down the line.
Ragnar has 44 units in Birka. I'm glad I don't have the medieval war turnset...
Ragnar has 44 units in Birka. I'm glad I don't have the medieval war turnset...
About situation.
I think we should consider war with Wang. Look on power. Wang has 0 power, Ragnar is going to roll over him with out mercy.
I do not think I have time to play today, tomorrow. So, we have time to discuss. I am in favor to put our money on Ragnar, keep his religion, addopt his policy and try to get him to firendly.
I think we should consider war with Wang. Look on power. Wang has 0 power, Ragnar is going to roll over him with out mercy.
I do not think I have time to play today, tomorrow. So, we have time to discuss. I am in favor to put our money on Ragnar, keep his religion, addopt his policy and try to get him to firendly.
I finished laying today.
2 turns to revolt posible.
Move all our chariots to roosevelt, time to finish him off.
Set and whiped 2 taoist missionaries.
Revolted ot pacifism/Castle system
Paper - dramma (Not finished)
Hire scientists
Toky cancel all deals.
Finally took last Roosevelt city (Keep it).
Got greate General.
got second GS.
Used 2 GS for education.
150AD Education? I do not remember getting one so early.
Used general to build Academy.
Now we can produce 80 shields units/turn in capital.
Revolted to Orgonised religion/slavery.
Whipoed one missionary, trow overflow into Forge.
Traded Philosofy + paper to ragnar for Engeneering.
Open border Ragnar.
Traded paper to Wang for Compas and his world map.
Declared on Wand.
Took this darn city in a middle of our land, keep it.
Otherwize next civ will build one there.
Prepare to raise this little city near our land(Cheju), there will be enogth forses soon.
Propouse to push to Hindy holly city and may be city near as, but I am afraid Ragnar will overtake as. Consider to move forses from capital.
Please note, we are running risk that Wang surrender to ragnar and we get into war with Ragnar. Risky move I did, but I see a little choise, as if ragnar take all wand and vassal him we are in hole anyway.
So, our land:
Power graph, I am scared of this 30 units stack ragnar running around.
2 turns to revolt posible.
Move all our chariots to roosevelt, time to finish him off.
Set and whiped 2 taoist missionaries.
Revolted ot pacifism/Castle system
Paper - dramma (Not finished)
Hire scientists
Toky cancel all deals.
Finally took last Roosevelt city (Keep it).
Got greate General.
got second GS.
Used 2 GS for education.
150AD Education? I do not remember getting one so early.
Used general to build Academy.
Now we can produce 80 shields units/turn in capital.
Revolted to Orgonised religion/slavery.
Whipoed one missionary, trow overflow into Forge.
Traded Philosofy + paper to ragnar for Engeneering.
Open border Ragnar.
Traded paper to Wang for Compas and his world map.
Declared on Wand.
Took this darn city in a middle of our land, keep it.
Otherwize next civ will build one there.
Prepare to raise this little city near our land(Cheju), there will be enogth forses soon.
Propouse to push to Hindy holly city and may be city near as, but I am afraid Ragnar will overtake as. Consider to move forses from capital.
Please note, we are running risk that Wang surrender to ragnar and we get into war with Ragnar. Risky move I did, but I see a little choise, as if ragnar take all wand and vassal him we are in hole anyway.
So, our land:
Power graph, I am scared of this 30 units stack ragnar running around.
angeleyes
mood indigo
I'm sure if Wang becomes a vassel of Ragnar, you automatically make peace with Wang .
150 AD education on deity, nice work guys.
I agree with the decision to go after Wang while he's weak. If we can take Pusan-Pyongyang-Seoul we have about as good a position as you can get on Deity.
I would personally try and bribe Shaka to attack Ragnar at some point in the medium term future (possibly around Liberalism time) so that they will hate each other forever and not attack us. Ragnar's army is stupidly large, the scary thing is that Shaka's is larger judging from the graph...
I agree with the decision to go after Wang while he's weak. If we can take Pusan-Pyongyang-Seoul we have about as good a position as you can get on Deity.
I would personally try and bribe Shaka to attack Ragnar at some point in the medium term future (possibly around Liberalism time) so that they will hate each other forever and not attack us. Ragnar's army is stupidly large, the scary thing is that Shaka's is larger judging from the graph...
acidsatyr
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Fear teh pacifism!!!
But look at the Shaka's power graph!!!!!!!!!!!
Mutineer, if Wang becomes Ragnar's vassal, we get peace with Wang, not war with Ragnar!
But they are same really
We need to set up cheap theaters, and S.Theater for future whipping/drafting
Good you lightbulbed education, I agree with the procedure
150ad is not that bad
Edit: For a med-term plan, I think going for granadiers is on top of our list
ThERat
Deity
need to consult the team...we razed Cheju, while Vikings razed Nanpo and Pusan and Wang became Ragnar's vassal...now what shall we do, we are at peace automatically now...
I can see that Shaka would fight Ragnar, but not for paper...we might want to make a run for liberalism (switch builds to unis etc...) and then get him to fight. We are too weak to attack Ragnar and Toku is on another Island...we might also want to settle where Pusan was
I can see that Shaka would fight Ragnar, but not for paper...we might want to make a run for liberalism (switch builds to unis etc...) and then get him to fight. We are too weak to attack Ragnar and Toku is on another Island...we might also want to settle where Pusan was
I will take Nationalism from Liberalism, as most expencive and usefull tech liberalism would offer as.
Nationalism for mass drafting is very usefull.
(Most people on this team know my believe, but new comers may not have enogth expirience with nationalism, so I want to state that).
In addition Taj Maxal is very desirable wander, especially for our big empire.
I would suggest to put capital in unit production, but all other cities build missiong infrastructure (Forges, markets) and get missionaries to spread Taoism into our cities and more Ragnar cities, so he do not defect to other religion.
Nationalism for mass drafting is very usefull.
(Most people on this team know my believe, but new comers may not have enogth expirience with nationalism, so I want to state that).
In addition Taj Maxal is very desirable wander, especially for our big empire.
I would suggest to put capital in unit production, but all other cities build missiong infrastructure (Forges, markets) and get missionaries to spread Taoism into our cities and more Ragnar cities, so he do not defect to other religion.
ThERat
Deity
ok, I played my turns until 500AD
until we got liberalism...got some money from Shaka for paper (130gold)
then from Toku for our WM (100+gold)
this enabled us to fuel our research...
then met Alex in 475AD
in a great trade deal, got optics/feudalism, drama and HBR from him for 4 techs...and he is pleased now as well after signin Open Borders
build a uni and National epic in our capital, now set for theatre...
finished some forges and we are soon finishing a boat to connect whales
then in 500AD got us liberalism and nationalism for free
set research to gunpowder on the way to chemistry
the tech game looks splendid...
now Shaka would go to war for education...think we must use this chance, he would fight both Ragnar and Wang. And btw, Alex seems to be good for trading now...
save
until we got liberalism...got some money from Shaka for paper (130gold)
then from Toku for our WM (100+gold)
this enabled us to fuel our research...
then met Alex in 475AD
in a great trade deal, got optics/feudalism, drama and HBR from him for 4 techs...and he is pleased now as well after signin Open Borders
build a uni and National epic in our capital, now set for theatre...
finished some forges and we are soon finishing a boat to connect whales
then in 500AD got us liberalism and nationalism for free
set research to gunpowder on the way to chemistry
the tech game looks splendid...
now Shaka would go to war for education...think we must use this chance, he would fight both Ragnar and Wang. And btw, Alex seems to be good for trading now...
save
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