I must admit, I'm a little intimidated to be on the opposide side of an argument as the great lawyer Sommerswerd, but here goes! Starting with the usual disclosures that none if this is personal, I take no offense to anything said, etc. Also, I really do want to thank r_rolo for volunteering to admin, this is nothing against him, and I totally get that it's not easy to follow this game as closely as I think is necessary to be effective in the admin role.
As you already know, I am against replacing the admin, r_rolo.
Understood. And I understand some of your concerns about asking Plako to take over the job. However, I disagree that r_rolo's absense is not potentially game-breaking. If we cannot continue playing because we are waiting on an admin decision, and the admin does not even acknowledge that a request has been made for several weeks, this game will die. So far, r_rolo's absence has just been an inconvenience, but there are many examples that would require a pause until a decision has been made. If we do not want to ask Plako to take over, then we need to come up with some other way to keep this game moving given the current lack of a present admin.
But TBH I'm a little confused by this
. I thought you said in
this post that Plako already refused the job of co-admin??
Right, but as
you said in
this post, asking Plako to help would effectively make him the sole admin. It was your opinion that since r_rolo is already taking so long to respond to requests, if we were to appoint a "back-up", he wouldn't bother to respond at all. So, the conversation is no longer whether Plako would be a co-admin, but whether he will take over as admin.
So what are we voting on?
We're voting on whether the team as a whole thinks it would be a good idea to propose to the other teams that Plako be added as an admin so he can respond to our requests and make admin decisions in a timely manner.
Also, you say in your post that you changed the language of the proposal to something different than what we were discussing in the thread. So am also a little confused about why you would post a poll and say you will act on the poll result when we havent even discussed the proposal you are asking for a vote on. How is it different from the prior one? Why the changes? Shouldn't we spend some time discussing it first before polling it?
The only change to my suggested PM, as I explained in the post that you linked, is that instead of asking if Plako can be a co-admin, we are asking if Plako can be a full admin to this game. As you stated, this will probably effectively mean that r_rolo is no longer making admin decisions.
Also, I wonder if posting a poll on something that isnt getting much discussion is a sound approach? I mean if no one is talking about it, that could be an indication that most people aren't interested in doing it right?
I thought about that, which was why I wanted to make sure I included a caveat to the poll that if not enough team members have an opinion one way or the other, then we won't take any action.
I think we've established that on this team, silence means consent. Are you instead implying that if the team leader and deputy leader both agree on a course of action, but not enough members of the team comment about it, then we should drop it? That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I could use your same argument to say that since not enough team members commented, we should not hold a poll, but instead just do what the team leader and deputy leader are recommeding without further team input. But I wanted to make sure everyone on the team had an opportunity to express their opinion about this.
I mean if we had a lot of interest in replacing r_rolo, AND alot of opposition then I could see the need for a poll. But in this situation it just seems like there just isn't much interest in the subject generally. I don't see what the urgent need for a 96 hour poll. That's like what? 3 Turns? I could see if we were racing to Liberalism or something and we needed to make a quick decision in a couple turns, but in this situation, why the urgency?
I understand your concern about feeling rushed. Since all my previous polls had been up for 3 days, I actually thought I was giving us extra time to discuss, think about it, and then make an informed decision. If we want to take more than 5 days to discuss this, I don't see a problem with it. However, in under 24 hours we've already gotten 7 votes in the poll, which is a higher number of team members than we get commenting on most issues.
Anyway, Just my two cents.
Very glad to get your two cents, and glad to see you posting more in general recently. Lively discussion is what these games are all about! Anything that gets more team members involved is a good thing, imho.
from courthouses and jails. I think the Corporation exec look the most like lawyers... 
Remember in Civ 1 (or was it Civ 2) how the Senate would keep overruling you anytime you tried to go to War? 
