Aggressive AI

[bigfatjonny]

Has anyone played on Aggressive AI recently?

I'm sure it is part of the improved AI mod and been around for a while, but i've just discovered it. It is insane, i'm playing on Monarch and it is the first time I have actually felt intimidated by the AI's and actually lost!
They had huge number of units and actually used them to attack and counter in a well planned way.

I imagine that it must be more like playing another human, with everything focused on war.

I am going to start another game soon, if you haven't tried Aggressive AI for a while then I suggest giving it a go!

 

[rkade8583]

I read a report stating that one of the big cheese devs wanted that to be the default AI because the default AI of now... kind of really sucks. Ever since I read that, Aggressive AI every time.

 

[phungus420]

That was Blake, the main programmer for the AI in BtS. He said that he wanted Aggressive AI to be the default setting, and the current default setting to be a checkbox labeled passive AI. But Sid or one of the main producers of BtS nixed his propossal and kept the current set up.

 

[rkade8583]

That's the one, Phun. I wish I could read that sucker again, it was very informative.

 

[thekaje]

I think that's a pretty horrible idea for a default. Maybe it'd make the game harder, but I think it'd be hardcore boring if all the AIs were unjustifiably hostile. I'm not playing an RTS.

 

[StMikael]

I almost always use Aggressive AI, because I prefer the AI to concentrate on his military instead of beating me to techs and wonders. With the Barbarian Civ Mod (I think the name was), a minor civ spawning from barbarians in the neighborhood usually comes at me with a Great General, some battering rams and melee units. Cost me a major city in my first LoR game, playing Emperor. Now I know that the former barbarians always go for a sneak attack sooner or later, so I prepare.

 

[BobTheTerrible]

I think that's a pretty horrible idea for a default. Maybe it'd make the game harder, but I think it'd be hardcore boring if all the AIs were unjustifiably hostile. I'm not playing an RTS.

Have you tried it? It's not like every AI civ declares war on you the instant they meet you. I think it adds for a much more fun and interesting game (one AI may conquer another, leading to a giant civ), although I think it would be cool to have a random smattering of either aggressive AI or "regular" AI civs in the same game.

 

[StMikael]

In my experience Aggressive AI only means that the AI civs tend to build more units, and they are quicker to declare war on you, if they are unhappy with you for some reason. They don't go on the warpath by default.

 

[thekaje]

Why should every leader be so quick to declare war?

I think the mix idea is good, too. I just don't like the idea of homogeneously military-focused civs.

 

[rkade8583]

Don't forget neglecting your military. If they think they can smack you, they'll declare war on you. I love an AI that forced me to react as opposed to vice versa.

 

[BobTheTerrible]

Why should every leader be so quick to declare war?

I think the mix idea is good, too. I just don't like the idea of homogeneously military-focused civs.

They're not "so quick" to declare war, and they're not all focused on military. As other people have said, they'll take advantage of weaker civs more quickly (so don't be stuck with archers in the industrial era), and they'll focus a bit more on military themselves.

 

[thekaje]

They're not "so quick" to declare war, and they're not all focused on military. As other people have said, they'll take advantage of weaker civs more quickly (so don't be stuck with archers in the industrial era), and they'll focus a bit more on military themselves.

Okay, so, uh... they're quick to declare war on weak countries, and they'll all focus more on military themselves.

 

[rkade8583]

Moreso than the original un-aggressive setting, yeah.

Like if Ghandi was a 1 aggressively, he'd be a 2. If Genghis is a 10, he'd be an 11. Make sense?

 

[Gresharas]

I find Aggressive AI to be much more intresting than plain AI, but it is as for now a bit unbalanced.

Since all leaders are slightly more intrested in war, but it give BIG advantages to those that are already "hardcoded" as very aggressive [Cath, Monty, Alex...] or very prone to get vassals [Mehemed, Suvy, Qin] while some others [Ghandi anyone?] are almost alwais doomed to extinction.

To put it simply, the AI is more proficient in attack, but in defence it still sucks horribly - it only uses a couple more units. Could that be improved?

 

[bigfatjonny]

Not sure about that. Ghandi is in the lead in my game, with agressive AI.

It is only the medieval period, but several civs have come & gone already. Ghandi has a large chunk of land on the opposite side of the pangea to me, and almost all the wonders. Im not sure that there is much chance of me taking him on directly, or any point in me even taking his cities, not with revolutions.

Darius actually sneak attacked and took one of my cities in a suprise attack last night. I was impressed.

 

[Ambassador]

He's called Gandhi, GandHi, not Ghandi oder Gandi (which means "dirty" in his native tongue). Please try to type his name correctly.

 

[thekaje]

He's called Gandhi, GandHi, not Ghandi oder Gandi (which means "dirty" in his native tongue). Please try to type his name correctly.

I don't know if there's a doctor in all of India who can remove that stick from your ass.

 

[rkade8583]

Kaje, look at it from his perspective and don't use such imagery here. I'm almost positive that's against the forum rules.

 

[Ambassador]

Dear thekaje,

I'm not myself of Indian descent, just plain European. Not even Muslim, as my image may suggest. But I do think that spelling other's names is a token of respect for other cultures. Since I saw the mispelling happening several times, I felt compelled to react. If my tone was to rude, please excuse, it wasn't meant that way. But please consider an American hearing a German talking about Lincaulen or a Frenchman hearing about Naboo Lion.

 

[Alsark]

Yeah, people seem to misspell Gandhi all the time. I've even been to a website dedicated to Gandhi where they misspelled it (I was doing a report on Gandhi). I thought that was pretty funny... and depressing.