All Things Star Wars

[Takhisis]

As Lonestar once said “Were gonna make a whole <crap> load of money!!”

Creepy how Mel Brook’s Spaceballs slowly went from a parody to an accurate prediction once the mouse has his hands on the franchise.

Spaceballs is on right now. When they landed on Yogurt's planet Lonestar actually said ‘when did we get to Disneyland?’. *picardfacepalm.jpg*

 

[Clubber Lang]

Text-Less cover of 'Light
of the Jedi'

Spoiler Wookie Jedi representing :

 

[Laurana Kanan]

Spielberg's not involved anymore?!

It's my understanding that he's only no longer directing. He still seems to be involved on a producer level and possibly with writing the script (though that seems to be having it's own problems).

 

[Clubber Lang]

So he still involved, that's a good thing. Spielberg and 'The Logan' guy.
Did not work out too well for Cameron and the 'Deadpool' guy though recently.

With Crystal Skull it seemed like they was going to pass the hat and whip on to Shia, wonder if they will they try again with someone new (grand-son/daughter?).

Would be great if Connery had a cameo but he's more retired than Pesci.

Maybe some old villians will return or not, hope the new one/s are up to scratch.
Even though Mola 'Kali Ma' Ram as a Indy villian cant be topped, ripping out beating hearts and giving 80s kids nightmares.


Anyword on what the story is or set around, time period advancing to the 60s?

All this talk reminds me i still have yet to watch the 'Young Indiana Jones Chronicles' series.

Contenders ready...

Cracking the whip: who should direct Indiana Jones 5 now that Spielberg is out?

With Steven Spielberg out of the running for the next instalment in the globetrotting adventure franchise, it’s time for some new blood

Yesterday’s surprise that Steven Spielberg is stepping away from the director’s chair for Indiana Jones 5 was met with shock, disappointment and even anger. While Indiana Jones is equally synonymous with star Harrison Ford and co-creator/producer George Lucas, each film in the series (including the disastrous fourth entry, Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull) have all carried the vaunted Spielberg touch. The Young Indiana Jones series notwithstanding, the thought of someone else overseeing the adventures of the heroic archeologist just seems … wrong.

And yet, someone is going to do it. As of now, that looks to be James Mangold, fresh off his Oscar-nominated crowd-pleaser Ford v Ferrari. The reaction to this news has been mixed: while Mangold is a well-respected director, with not a small amount of geek cred thanks to his work on The Wolverine and especially Logan, he’s definitely not the first person one thinks of when considering heirs apparent to the Bearded One.

Perhaps that’s a good thing. There are enough film-makers aping Spielberg as is (see: JJ Abrams, Colin Trevorrow, the Duffer brothers). Mangold has developed enough of a personal, if not particularly distinctive, style over the course of his 25-year directing career that his movie probably won’t feel too much like fan fiction.

Yet, there are a number of other directors who seem better suited to take over for Spielberg, and who are definitely more exciting choices. Since Mangold’s still in early talks at the moment, there’s no harm in imagining what some of those hypothetical candidates might bring to the fifth and presumably final – at least until the eventual prequels and reboots – entry of the Indiana Jones saga.

Justin Lin

By the time Indiana Jones 5 comes out, it will have been almost 15 years since the release of Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, but the memory of that film will still be lingering in fans’ minds. Who better then to reassure skeptical audiences than Justin Lin, a man known for course-correcting previously ailing franchises such as The Fast and the Furious and Star Trek? Lin would also wholeheartedly embrace the pulpier aspects of Indiana Jones and could be counted on to deliver something fun and fast-paced.

Joe Cornish

English director Joe Cornish earned immediate comparisons to Spielberg with his first film, 2011’s sci-fi/action thriller Attack the Block. His follow-up feature eight years later, the young adult fantasy adventure The Kid Who Would Be King, was met with a much cooler reception, although it likewise shared that nostalgic Amblin feel. Cornish has an innate ability to tell adventure stories that feel both old school and modern, and he’d be an ideal – perhaps the ideal – person for Spielberg to pass the torch, or, in this case, the bullwhip to.

Kathryn Bigelow

Bigelow may seem like a strange choice, since she’d admirably managed to stay away from the franchise machine, but that’s also one of the reasons she’d be a good choice. With all of her sway, she would probably be allowed to do her own thing with the story and you could be sure she wouldn’t be indebted to nostalgia or fan expectations. While these days Bigelow is associated with serious drama thanks to The Hurt Locker, Zero Dark Thirty and Detroit, she’s still the director of such high-octane pulp fare as Blue Steel, Near Dark and Point Break (plus she has a history with Ford, having directed him in 2002’s K-19: The Widowmaker), and seeing her return to pure action/adventure would be a cause for celebration.

Gore Verbinski

Few directors have been as influential in shaping the modern-day blockbuster, for better or worse, than Gore Verbinski. In fact, of all the blockbusters of the last two decades, the one that feels closest in spirit and tone to the first three Indiana Jones movies, without being overly redolent of them, is Verbinski’s Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl. Verbinski has been something of a professional recluse following the disappointment of his last two outings (Disney’s failed Lone Ranger reboot and the psychological thriller A Cure for Wellness). However, both films have undergone a critical reassessment of late, and Verbinski is overdue for a comeback. Should Mangold ultimately drop out, Verbinski would be a no-brainer to replace him.

Deborah Chow

So far, all of the directors I have listed are established names, but as has been proven by any number of recent blockbusters – Jurassic World, Wonder Woman, a solid three-quarters of the Marvel movies – up-and-coming directors are perfectly capable of delivering huge hits if given the chance. It’s only a matter of time before Deborah Chow, a television director with credits on shows such as The Man in the High Castle, Jessica Jones, Mr Robot and Better Call Saul, is given a high-profile feature, and it might as well be Indiana Jones 5. Chow just came off her highest-profile gig yet, having directed two of the most popular episodes of The Mandalorian. She had been tasked with directing an Obi-Wan Kenobi series for Disney+, but that project was recently put on hold. Disney clearly has a lot of faith in Chow, so should things not work out with Mangold, and should the Obi-Wan series remain in limbo, don’t be surprised if she ends up on a shortlist of possible replacements.

Bob Persichetti, Peter Ramsey and Rodney Rothman

It’s not unheard of for directors to start out in animation before moving into live action. The past decade has seen a handful of big names making the jump, such as Pixar staples Brad Bird and Andrew Stanton, as well as the team of Phil Lord and Christopher Miller. With that in mind, perhaps the trio of Bob Persichetti, Peter Ramsey and Rodney Rothman might make the jump next. They certainly earned the opportunity following the massive commercial, critical and creative success of Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, which managed to take the most oversaturated franchise of the modern era and not only make it feel fresh, but wholly surprising and essential. I have no doubt they could do the same for the Indyverse.

Lijo Jose Pellissery

While Lijo Jose Pellissery is the least famous name on this list, he’s also my personal pick. The Indian director, known in the Malayalam film industry for his kinetic, gonzo style, cited Spielberg as a major influence on his 2019 film, Jallikattu, about a rampaging bull wreaking havoc on a poor rural village. The influence was not lost on film festival audiences, whose raves invariably compared Jallikattu to Jaws and Jurassic Park (as well as 2001 and Apocalypse Now). The mind boggles at what Pellissery could do with a large budget and studio support. Of course, it’s ridiculous to imagine that Disney would ever hand either over to as wild a director as Pellissery, although I suppose stranger things have happened.

Shane Black

Like the preceding entry, this is a total pipe dream. It’s also probably a terrible idea, given how little Spielberg and Black have in common as film-makers. However, my reasoning is simple: Black has been trying to make a movie about Doc Savage – the brawny, brainy, globetrotting adventurer from the golden age of pulp magazines and a forebear to any number of pop culture heroes, foremost among them Indiana Jones – for years, to no avail. There’s no telling if Black will ever get his dream project off the ground, so he might as well put some of his ideas for it to use in an Indiana Jones movie. It’s not like he’d be totally out of his element – his work on Iron Man 3 (one of the very best Marvel Cinematic Universe movies, haters be damned) proves he can operate within the strictures of the Disney franchise machine. And besides, who wouldn’t want to see an extra-surly Indiana Jones cracking wise alongside some lovably dimwitted new sidekick while celebrating Christmas in some far-flung exotic locale?

 

[Laurana Kanan]

Would be great if Connery had a cameo but he's more retired than Pesci.

It'd have to be a flashback, since his character is dead.

Anyword on what the story is or set around, time period advancing to the 60s?

The only "concrete" thing that I've heard concerning the script is that it needed rewrites, as parts of it were problematic.

Personally, I wish they wouldn't make it for many reasons I won't go into. I'm much more excited to see the rebooted Tomb Raider sequel with Alicia Vikander. Sadly it's still a year or more away.

All this talk reminds me i still have yet to watch the 'Young Indiana Jones Chronicles' series.

It's been 20 years since I last saw that. It was pretty good from what I remember. Is it streaming anywhere? I don't think it's on Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, etc.

 

[r16]

so , after a month and 4 pages Xenforo cuts me out , Disney is back at making movies , behind my back ? Will see , dear people , will see ...

also serves as subscription back post , like , ı don't know , 10th already ?

 

[Clubber Lang]

It's been 20 years since I last saw that. It was pretty good from what I remember. Is it streaming anywhere? I don't think it's on Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, etc.

The complete in order Young Indiana Jones Chronicles -

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5iWJ4SmozWS1VPV6IpQxozCEzRGqxPU2

I think that's the DVD version.
Which Lucas cut the prologues/endings from the episodes that was on the VHS, just had to tinker with it.

Every episode starts out with the elderly man (Indiana Jones) that he is in the 1990's getting into a specific situation where he has to tell a story from his past.

 

[Sommerswerd]

Creepy how Mel Brook’s Spaceballs slowly went from a parody to an accurate prediction

Nah, It was already pretty accurate, long before Disney got involved... Remember Kenner's Empty Box Promotion/Pre-Order, where they had kids asking their parents to buy them an empty box for Christmas with only pictures of action figures on it, depicting figures that they hadn't actually even made, agreed to make, or even agreed to the design for yet

It was basically a Ponzi scheme... collect the money as a proof of concept, then make the figures if you collect enough money.

"The Quest For More Money" indeed

 

[Takhisis]

Remember Kenner's Empty Box Promotion/Pre-Order

Bloody hell.

 

[Clubber Lang]

This channel covers just the VHS Prologue/bookends of Young Indiana Jones Chronicles :

Our first glimpse of Indiana Jones as an old man. George Hall stars in these "bookends" and provides the narration for this luxurious TV show.

 

[Laurana Kanan]

From Rae Carson's TROS novelization coming out on the 3/17 (Advanced copies sold at C2E2 this weekend):

"All the vials were empty of liquid save one, which was nearly depleted. Kylo peered closer. He'd seen this apparatus before, too, when he'd studied the Clone Wars as a boy. The liquid flowing into the living nightmare before him was fighting a losing battle to sustain the Emperor's putrid flesh.

"What could you give me?" Kylo asked. Emperor Palpatine lived, after a fashion, and Kylo could feel in his very bones that this clone body sheltered the Emperor's actual spirit. It was an imperfect vessel, though, unable to contain his immense power. It couldn't last much longer."

So I guess that settles that - Palpatine in TROS was a clone. A plot point that was done much better in the Dark Empire series.

 

[GenMarshall]

Now I can vaguely see why Kathleen Kennedy wanted to jettison the EU, is so they don’t have to pay royalties to the original authors of the post-Endor expanded universe.

The Dark Empire series did it a bit better with the return of Palpatine. Though not without its share of controversies of having old Palpy returning in the Dark Empire.

But at least the Empire in the EU fought tooth and nail to stick around much longer than Disney’s Empire which just went “lol, ima gonna collapse now cause Palpatine is dead and don’t want to deal with the infighting that happened in the EU”.

This only shows me that Disney and KK are taking pages from EA’s playbook. Wanna know the full story? Buy this expansion pack/novel!!. And making it so that the Disney Trillogy can’t stand on its own.

 

[Clubber Lang]

Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker comic adaptation is probably the closest we'll get to a J.J. Cut


Extended and deleted scenes will both feature in the May release


It’s not quite the J.J. Cut, but an extended version will be coming later this year – as part of a comic adaptation that will flesh out more of Episode 9 as well as re-surfacing deleted scenes.

Jody Houser, who also wrote the Star Wars: Rogue One comics, told StarWars.com that the Rise of Skywalker comic book will “build out elements of the story there may not have been time or a place for on the screen.”

That also includes any deleted scenes that were left on the cutting room floor by director J.J. Abrams. In essence, it acts as a more complete version of Episode 9. “Giving light to new scenes gives the creators in these other mediums a chance to add to the story,” Houser teased.

While we don’t know (yet) what scenes will be extended and which deleted scenes will be restored on the page, Houser has more than whetted our appetite for the new version of Rise of Skywalker, which is set for release in May. She said she is “more excited about some of the new things we’re adding, including expanding moments from the movie with elements we didn’t get to see on screen. Which is vague, but spoilers!”

One Kylo Ren-related deleted scene, meanwhile, will feature in the novelisation. It includes the then-Supreme Leader coming face to face withe spidery webbish bog during his hunt for the Sith Wayfinder on Mustafar. It could even be something that shows up in visual form in the upcoming comic.

Actor Dominic Monaghan, who played Resistance fighter Beaumont Kin, previously said, “There was so much stuff filmed that didn’t make it to the theatrical version,” stoking the fires for a director's cut.

But, for those Star Wars completionists out there, it looks as if we’ll be getting a different, fuller Rise of Skywalker at long last – especially important as we're not likely to see any deleted scenes in the home release next month.

 

[Clubber Lang]

Does Indiana Jones Work Without Steven Spielberg?


Right from its opening match cut, Raiders Of The Lost Ark is quintessential Steven Spielberg. As the Paramount logo gives way to a South American mountain top and the opening credits roll, so begin two hours of pure Spielbergian adventure – a rollicking ride stuffed with practical set-pieces, shot with classical clarity and led by a whip-cracking American hero introduced, with typical Spielberg flair, silhouette-first. Fresh from inventing the blockbuster in 1975 with Jaws, the director reinvented it again six years later with Indiana Jones – an icon born on the big screen rather than ripped from the page, dreamed up by Spielberg and George Lucas from the 1950s serials of their childhoods, operating in a heightened playground of ancient relics, religious wrath, and bounteous snakes (why’d it have to be snakes?). From Raiders, through Temple Of Doom and The Last Crusade, and even into Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull, the director’s DNA is integral to everything that makes Indiana Jones Indiana Jones.

Which makes the recent reports that the long-gestating Indiana Jones 5 is still moving ahead, but without the man, the myth, the beard himself behind the camera, all the more surprising. Instead, it’s mooted that filmmaker James Mangold – of Walk The Line, Logan, Le Mans ’66 and more – will take over as director. While there’s no official announcement from Lucasfilm yet, it poses the question: what is Indiana Jones without Steven Spielberg?

The very image of Indiana Jones himself is inherently Spielbergian. Even Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull is full of Spielberg grace-notes.

It’s fair to ask – after all, Indy has only ever existed on the big screen through Spielberg’s lens. Where even the original Star Wars trilogy saw new directors step in for each entry (albeit all heavily overseen by Lucas), Indiana Jones was always a collaboration between three top men: Spielberg, Lucas on story duties, and Harrison Ford in the fedora. The very image of Indiana Jones himself – whether he’s stepping out of the smokey shadows at the start of Raiders, threatening to chop down the rope bridge in Temple Of Doom as the camera slowly pulls in, or riding off into an infinite sunset at the close of The Last Crusade – is inherently Spielbergian. Even Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull, for all its considerable flaws, is full of Spielberg grace-notes – take the moment our hero is reunited with his fedora (depicted, of course, in silhouette), or dashes through a suburban family house that’s actually a nuclear testing site. As for the small-screen Young Indiana Jones Chronicles, there’s a reason it’s oft-forgotten, a quasi-educational mixed bag that inevitably couldn’t compete with the films’ visual prowess.

Spielberg stepping away throws the need for a fifth Indy film at all back into question. While there are issues to contend with – the increasing age of Ford who, despite an impressive reprisal of Han Solo in Star Wars: The Force Awakens, would have more physical work to do here, and narrative corners to be reversed out of, like Shia LaBeouf’s much-unloved son-of-Indy, Mutt – there’s merit to the idea of Spielberg, Lucas and Ford reuniting to deliver the grand send-off that Crystal Skull sadly wasn’t. But the notion of getting the band back together isn’t the same without your lead guitarist – like a Fleetwood Mac tour without Lindsey Buckingham, it just doesn’t feel right.


Of course, in a world where Indiana Jones 5 will likely exist with or without Spielberg, Mangold is a fine pick – a talented contemporary filmmaker with old-school sensibilities. Like Spielberg he’s a classical director, someone who could be relied upon to keep it practical and avoid green-screen whizz-bangery (which even Spielberg succumbed to on Kingdom Skull). As 3:10 To Yuma, Knight And Day, and Identity proved, he’s unafraid of genre. And with Logan, he showed a knack for delivering moving, action-packed send-offs for ageing movie heroes. If Raiders was Spielberg and Lucas paying homage to their youth, Indiana Jones was surely a big part of Mangold’s. He was 18 when Raiders came out – perhaps it would be fitting for someone who grew up with Indy to deliver a loving farewell.

But it also conjures more complications – how could Mangold, or any other filmmaker, hope to move Indiana Jones forward as an incoming director? Is it possible to make it your own, without straying too far from the template, or slipping into a Spielberg impersonation? It’s a task fraught with as many boobytraps as a long-lost ancient tomb.

As the initial shock of a potentially Spielberg-free Indiana Jones movie subsides, it’s easier to think of the positives – beyond Mangold’s considerable talent, the recent revival of Star Wars was for the most part, internet rage aside, a joyful rekindling of the original trilogy’s magic. If Mangold can pull it off and give us an Indy 5 to cherish as much as the first three Indiana Jones films, the ultimate prize awaits: fortune and glory, kid. Fortune and glory.

 

[r16]

Nah, It was already pretty accurate, long before Disney got involved... Remember Kenner's Empty Box Promotion/Pre-Order, where they had kids asking their parents to buy them an empty box for Christmas with only pictures of action figures on it, depicting figures that they hadn't actually even made, agreed to make, or even agreed to the design for yet

It was basically a Ponzi scheme... collect the money as a proof of concept, then make the figures if you collect enough money.

"The Quest For More Money" indeed

nothing of the sort . Star Wars would bomb as in go down as an utter failure and nobody actually wanted to lose money on that . People always forget George Lucas was an example of the then new generation of directors who wouldn't fit in with the studio system back then ; and who would want studios to discover there were "hopes" for the Star Wars movies . George Lucas had his movie made only because he cut his director's fee down . It would have been suspicious to be ready to "meet the demand" ...

see , NOBODY EVER DISAGREES with Disney making tons of money ; the thing is they can like actually make good films .

 

[Takhisis]

‘Welcome to the first of three intermission strips following our Muppet Show storyline.’
-Darths and Droids

 

[JohannaK]

HOORAY!

 

[Synobun]

So, Palpatine was a clone.

Whatever.

But wait, there's more!

Remember how the whole "Rey's father" thing threw a wrench into everything, and how the movie completely skipped over it? Fret not, Disney is doing its best JK Rowling impersonation.

Rey's father was also a Palpatine clone.

https://screenrant.com/star-wars-rise-skywalker-rey-father-palpatine-clone/

omg this trilogy is so stupid

 

[Takhisis]

I remember that since I already knew the non-canon!Dark Empire storyline with all the cloned emperors and so on I just said ‘oh, they've ported that into this new version of Star Wars’ and didn't pay much attention, but… OUCH.

 

[Clubber Lang]

So Rey's pops was a failed Sidous clone whose body could not handle all that force power. But Rey could.

Maybe momma Rey had a strong force bloodline too, a chance for Disney to mix it up a little bit more.

Rey Palaptine (Via Clone), Skywalker (in tribute) and ?