Amendment to the Office of Warlord

[Methos]

As promised:

Based on the poll Office of Warlord.

Responsibilities:

• The Warlord is responsible for all units who have a strength greater than zero. Exceptions being ICBM's and spies who also fall under the responsibility of the Warlord.
• The Warlord is responsible for deciding promotions for the units he or she is responsible for.

I hesitate to give full powers of promotions to the Warlord, as I believe the DP should be allowed to promote if he/she feels it is necessary. Hence my reason I didn't add the statement to the above. It could be added, but would need to be worded in such a way to grant the DP powers to promote if the situation requires it.

 

[Falcon02]

Personally I feel Warlord has priority to post instructions about Promotions, however, without clear instructions on a particular unit or unit type, the decision is up to the DP.

 

[dutchfire]

Personally I feel Warlord has priority to post instructions about Promotions, however, without clear instructions on a particular unit or unit type, the decision is up to the DP.

I'm with our military expert on this one

 

[Methos]

Legal Question: If we give the authority over promotions to the Warlord does the DP still have the ability to promote a unit during his/her turnchat if the need arises?

If the above is true, than I agree authority over promotions should be given to the Warlord.
Else, I believe the Warlord should not.

 

[ori]

I would read
"The Warlord is responsible for all units"
as already giving the authority over promotions to the Warlord. As with all other things: if the Warlord does not issue an order prior to the turnset, the DP is free to do what he feels best in a given situation. And I don't think anyone would require the DP to stop his turn just because some unit earned a new promotion.
In wartime they'll often need to be promoted ASAP, so unless the Warlord says "create a Medic2 unit" or "promote all axes to CR3" or "give pinch to warrior1" or whatever, the DP should be free to do what he pleases. In peacetime promotions can usually wait anyways, so the DP can leave it to the next turn, or guess what the unit has just been build for...

Also I like shorter sentences, so:
The Warlord is responsible for all military units. This includes all units with a strength greater than zero, as well as ICBMs and spies.

 

[Falcon02]

Excerpt from Initiative 2 - Playing the Save
The Playing The Save Act

Section 1

The DP for each game session, including special sessions, must maintain a log of their actions in sufficient detail that another citizen may generally recreate their actions.

All official instructions must be posted in the current game session instruction thread. Instructions must be clear and defined. Officials must post their instructions at least one hour before the scheduled start of the game session. Officials may make changes to their instructions up to an hour before the session, so long as those changes are clearly noted. Officials that do not post instructions for a game session are considered to have given the DP complete control over their area for that game session, even should they be at the game session.

During a game session, citizens are encouraged to comment and offer advice to the DP. The DP may also seek comments from citizens. The DP is not required to do so, and is not required in any way to follow any such advice.

The game session may last for as long as there are relevant instructions, until a posted instruction says to hold the session or when the DP decides to end the session. Once a game session is over, the DP must post a summary of that session, a detailed log of their actions, and a save in the instruction thread and in the summary thread.

To me this sorta also implies any minor thing that comes up that's not described in the instructions is up to the DP.

Say the no one gives exacting instructions on Scout movements (like we've been doing) does that mean that the DP can't move the scout around as they feel best? No, since that is not defined in the instructions it's up to the DP to make the call where and how to move the scout(s).

 

[grant2004]

I agree the warlord can be given oversight power for promotions while still leaving the details up to the dp

 

[DaveShack]

I prefer the approach of the Warlord setting policy over promotions, then giving implementation authority to the DP.

 

[Hyronymus]

I don't have a strong favour for the DP or Warlord overseeing unit promotions but I would like to point out something important regarding Falcon02's reply. Just because unit promotions weren't discussed before doesn't mean they are best of with the DP. It only means we have to think about who oversees unit promotions. We've given a lot of effort to avoid ambiguous interpretations in so many fields, let's not wave such efforts away. It prevents disappointments and tragedies.

 

[Methos]

I have added this statement to the responsibilities of the Warlord in the OP.

• The Warlord is responsible for deciding promotions for the units he or she is responsible for.

I suck at wording! Anyone have a better way to express that?

 

[grant2004]

possibly

The warlord is responsible for the promotion of all units under his or her command

 

[Methos]

Any last observations before moving this to a vote? Or should it instead be put to an Initiative? I'll continue this tomorrow.

 

[DaveShack]

There are additional comments in this discussion on promotions.

 

[ori]

I have added this statement to the responsibilities of the Warlord in the OP.

• The Warlord is responsible for deciding promotions for the units he or she is responsible for.

I suck at wording! Anyone have a better way to express that?

Any last observations before moving this to a vote? Or should it instead be put to an Initiative? I'll continue this tomorrow.

Just for some nicer reading I propose the following wording:

The Warlord is responsible for planning unit promotions and controls all military units. Military units are all units with a strength greater than zero, as well as ICBMs and spies.

 

[Falcon02]

Ori,

Methos updated his first post...

And I think it is pretty easy reading.

Responsibilities:

• The Warlord is responsible for all units who have a strength greater than zero. Exceptions being ICBM's and spies who also fall under the responsibility of the Warlord.
• The Warlord is responsible for deciding promotions for the units he or she is responsible for.

 

[ori]

Ori,

Methos updated his first post...

And I think it is pretty easy reading.

I have seen it - I am fine either way, though I do not like the "Exceptions being ICBM's and spies who also fall under the responsibility of the Warlord." part, but that has nothing to do with the content, just some differences in reading tastes I suspect.
Also: I do think that the Warlord should plan promotions for the army and leave it to the DP to actually carry out those promotions on single unit level and thus I'd word it as "planning" instead of "deciding" but again, this is just nitpicking and I am fine either way (In the end regardless of what this initiative says - no (sane ) Warlord will post specific instructions for all military units once we are in a war with 50+ units - so it will be left to the DP to actually execute those promotions following general guidelines from the Warlord).

 

[Falcon02]

very true, I see your points.