"...and those who harbour them."

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Quote taken from the just-completed Presidential speech. As in 'find/punish/whatever those who did this and those who harbour them'

Fairly subtle, but I think this spells military action.
 
Hey this is just EMPTY chick chat!!!<br />How USA is going to attack invisible forces of Talibam - drop a nuclear bomb!!!???<br />Have you learnt anything in Vietnam!?<br />Think about something else boys.
 
It means we will go to war with any country that harbors them. <br />It shows how serious we are.
 
HEy boys.<br />I really feel sorry for what has happened to USA, but a war with noone is a bit hard?! Terrorist are everywhere - maybe your neighbour, so how you fight them if even intelligence does not know who is terrorist!?!!? It is not a country who you have to fight but terrorist - so where are they!?!?!
 
Is it really that abstract, Jedi?

The Prez is implying that nations that allow terrorist activity to go on unchecked will probably have a 'heart to heart exchange of differing opinions' with the US once this mess is cleaned up. Sheesh.... <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">

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The deaths of so many WILL be avenged.
 
Let me explain to you exactly what it means, rat. It means that when we find who is responsible we will issue the following statement to whatever country they are living in:

"If you do not hand over _________ by this date we will attack both you and the terrorists you harbor."

Pretty simple, no? This is not a war with no one, rat. Somebody planned it, somebody made it happen. And when we figure out who it is we will bring them to death (that's right, war crime brings the punishment death by hanging) and if the country that they are in does not hand them over to us, they will be attacked too.
 
I agree with you guys and share the anger...<br />BUT what if this country is USA!!!! I mean what if they are sitting somwhere on your land and plan another attacts? How do you attack this country? Can anybody explain to me how USA will attack ex Russian republic - Afghanistan without 3rd world war?!?!? Russia will never allow Americans to invade Afghanistan? IS not this logic?!?!
 
Hey man learn some history....the former USSR invaded and later fought a long bloody war against the same people who run the country now. I dont think that Russia would mind too much if the US used up a few million tons of of cold war stockpiles to remove these COWARDS!!!

USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA
 
PLUS ......

Russia has been fighting the Islamic forces in the southern regions of the country for 20 years. Do you remember the war in Chechnya, Russian forces fought Islamic forces backed by Afgan resources and trained in that country. (Just my personal theory) This will in the end lead to all-out war on terrorist groups...A war with NATO and former Warsaw pact countries fighting with China and other outside nations against organized terrorists which are the the plaque of humanity in the 21st century.

And for all my American brothers...."This morning the world as we knew it changed. These are the events that define generations. We all got a lot older today." Let's stand together and show the world why we are the only remaining super-power...
 
Afghanistan presents a bit of a problem when it come to retaliation. It is not practical to go there with ground troops, and there is not much left standing to bomb.
 
i've never been a big fan of bush, but i think he hit the nail, right on the FUC*'in head with that statement. Those who support terrorists, are terrorists, and deserve anythig they get. It's time for them to figure out you don't mess with a nation that can hit you anywhere in the world. <img src="graemlins/snipersmilie.gif" border="0" alt="[Sniper]" />
 
The reason that these terrorists are so pissed off with the US and are attacking us is, supposedly, because we bombed them during the Persian Gulf War, and in subsequent actions thereafter (such as operation Desert Fox). Also because we supply Israel with weapons. Combine these factors, and you get some very pissed off and very angry middle-eastern people.

But because we obliterated the strongest military force in the middle east, Iraq, during the Operation Desert Storm, Their governments are unable to do anything in retaliation. So that leaves TERRORISM as the only recourse of the common man looking for revenge. And that's what will draw people to being recruited into a terrorist organization.

The only way to completely pacify an enemy territory, and rid them of terrorists, is NOT by nuking them, sending cruise missiles at them, or by just simply sending multiple airstrikes against them. The only way to do it is by sending in the good old-fashined Infantry, and occupying them. <img src="graemlins/snipersmilie.gif" border="0" alt="[Sniper]" />

Despite the popularity of so-called "push-button Warfare": it is impossible to pacify any population without occupying them. Airstrikes do cause massive ammounts of damage and inflict lots of casualties on the enemy, but the survivors are incredibly vengeful and the hard-liners will resort to terrorism. <img src="graemlins/hammer.gif" border="0" alt="[Hammer]" />
 
Yes Russians never FULLY !!!! occupied afghanistan. By saying 'ex Russian' state I meant the fact that they were there and controlled part of that country. The truth is that Russians, Chinees, Japanees and most of independent coutries does not welcome USA troops on theirs land. How do you think Russia will act if USA forces land such a close distance to Russia?
 
I dont we will ever entertain the thought of putting ground troops in that hell hole.

But Russia has had it's own problems with terrorist...

Moscow bomb kills at least 8, injures 53<br />August 8, 2000<br />MOSCOW (CNN) -- At least eight people were killed and 53 injured in a bomb blast Tuesday in an underground pedestrian walkway near the Kremlin in central Moscow.
 
Actually, rat, it appears that Russia supports us. Numerous news sources have reported that Russia has already offered intelligence information on Afganistan and it's neighbors to the CIA and NSA. Several Senators with contacts in the CIA have repeated this information. Also, Russian activity (particularly air activity) has increased along the border. I don't think Russia will stop us from doing whatever we want with that little *****, Afganistan. The Russians are quite at odds with the Afganis, in particular the Taliban who lead them against USSR occupation.

I don't think that Russia, which is trying to modernize and capitalize, would act against the U.S. Especially not in support of it's enemies. Perhaps this is the beginning of true alliance between our two nations.
 
I am pleased to hear that "mother Russia" is willing to help USA, but how much is Russian inteligence worth (if it comes to Afghanis)??? I cannot imagine USA troops landing in Afghanistan. Imagine if Russians wanted to drop special forces in Cuba!?!!? Maybe 'cold war' is over, but there are many issues that divide USA and Russia -ex. long range ballistic missiles. I am sure that conditions to fight in Afghanistan are much worse then in Iraq, Vietnam, Bosnia - could USA plus NATO 'eliminate' those evils!?!? Of course I hope this time will be more succes. I wish that to all of us.
 
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