Anno Domini - a full mod from R8XFT

[NateDawgNY]

Wow R8XFT, great job on this. Definitely look forward to playing it.

And yes Joshua's proper title should be General. Moses was a prophet, he was not.

 

[Hrafnkell]

The argument against Tiberius is largely based upon the account by Suetonius, of the senatorial class, who hated Tiberius and was a gossip-monger of the first magnitude. Some historians have questioned these accounts for some time and it is now seen that not even the worst of the emperors may have been as bad as believed by 19th century historians. So it does matter - a great deal. Who is and is not most suitable to represent a race is largely subjective. A number of arguments could be made pro and con for many of them.

 

[pinktilapia]

Great art R8XFT, topped with a mod on which I am curious to know more!
To represent Rome, any emperor of the age of the Antonines (Trajan is thus fine, although I would personally prefer Marcus Aurelius) would be -I believe- the best logical choice. Most of the leaders are usually selected for having ruled during the 'golden age' of their civilization.

 

[Xen]

The argument against Tiberius is largely based upon the account by Suetonius, of the senatorial class, who hated Tiberius and was a gossip-monger of the first magnitude. Some historians have questioned these accounts for some time and it is now seen that not even the worst of the emperors may have been as bad as believed by 19th century historians. So it does matter - a great deal. Who is and is not most suitable to represent a race is largely subjective. A number of arguments could be made pro and con for many of them.

your point, sir? we still know that he skrewe dhi ssuccessor, caligula, and his achievments STILL dotn even begin to compare witht he likes of augustus, Vespasian, or Trajan in thier careers. thier is no case for Tiberius, at all.

 

[Xen]

Great art R8XFT, topped with a mod on which I am curious to know more!
To represent Rome, any emperor of the age of the Antonines (Trajan is thus fine, although I would personally prefer Marcus Aurelius) would be -I believe- the best logical choice. Most of the leaders are usually selected for having ruled during the 'golden age' of their civilization.

aurelius skrewed th eempire as well; while his conquest of coastal germania up to denmakr is to be applauded, his choice of successor, commodus, isnt- he too skrewed the empire with his choice for successor.

 

[RedAlert]

Just out of curiosity, why did those emperors choose the successors they did, then? Is there a common reason behind all their choices?

 

[Xen]

Just out of curiosity, why did those emperors choose the successors they did, then? Is there a common reason behind all their choices?

simpey enough, they made the follow of wanting to create a dynasty- Tiberius it coudl be understood- Aurelisu not so much, as he himself was the product of being th emost skilled man in th eempire, at leas tin the eyes of the former emperor, Antoninus Pius; who himself was a chosen, and not born emperor.

you see, the golden age of the Roman empire (as a distinct entity from the republic) was between the reigns of emperor Nerve, and Aurelius- these emperors all were either adopted thier suceesor, beginnign with Nerva, or were themselves adopted (Aurelius and his predecessos)

no0w what is adoption in this snese- well Nerva was a wise old sod, he saw that the best way to ensure a truelly workign nation was to select the best candidate to run the empire- a military man, with skilled adminiostration skills, and well liked by th elocal populace, and, more importantlly, the local treoops, and sub comanders- takign all his commander sinto account, he, and the other then selected thier successor, and adopted him into the familly, and named him the heir, offically- the final step was ratifacation by the Imperial senate of his legitimacy as emperor, as the sentate still had a nice chunk of power during this time.

 

[RedAlert]

Very interesting...


Anyway, the way I see this whole 'who should lead rome' debate (And I guess I'm for the most part agreeing with Xen) is that no matter what the case (If there is or is not any/sufficient reason why Tiberius should be leader), there are still many more, and much more obvious choices for that position. So, even if we concluded that Tiberius did a good job, we could still probably find plenty of emperors who did better. Would I be correct in that assumption?

But although choosing a proper leader is important, lets just get it done and move on to other things, shall we? (Although I am enjoying reading all this nice Roman info)

 

[RedAlert]

R8XFT - Will you eventually be expanding some of these new leaderheads into all eras?

 

[Rob (R8XFT)]

R8XFT - Will you eventually be expanding some of these new leaderheads into all eras?

I knew someone would ask that ! Let's get the mod out of the way and then I'll see .

 

[Azmorg]

Simply awsome looking leaderheads, especially the women.
Way, way better than Firaxis' originals.
Do you have a tutorial? If not, you ought to. You do the best artwork around.

 

[Rob (R8XFT)]

Simply awsome looking leaderheads, especially the women.
Way, way better than Firaxis' originals.
Do you have a tutorial? If not, you ought to. You do the best artwork around.

Thanks a lot !! I don't have a tutorial at the moment....

I've started work on the advisors. Here's the new domestic advisor in-game:

The full range of expressions:

 

[Plotinus]

I must say that I think her eyes are too close together. Maybe that's why she never progressed beyond Domestic Adviser - can't see anything too far away...

 

[Rob (R8XFT)]

I must say that I think her eyes are too close together. Maybe that's why she never progressed beyond Domestic Adviser - can't see anything too far away...

Any wider apart and she wouldn't see past her fringe .

 

[Goldflash]

Are you going to give her four different outfits for your four different eras, or just leaving it as it is?

 

[onedreamer]

Just out of curiosity, why did those emperors choose the successors they did, then? Is there a common reason behind all their choices?

Because romans were smart. Would you leave the fate of an Empire in the hands of your real son even if he's an idiot, as happened so many times in the course of history ? Roman nobles used to adopt promising guys to ensure a good continuity. Xen, you can't measure the greatness of a roman emperor only by his military conquests or choice of a successor. Btw, I personally would choose Augustus as emperor, even if he is not really my favourite, he is the first one, and symbol for the Romans.

I like a lot the preview graphics, excellent as usual R8XFT
The choice of civs and salt mining being so late would have me say something, but I understood that the purpouse of this mod is mainly fun and gameplay, rather than exasperated historical accuracy. Am I right ?

Anyways, shouldn't the title be Annus Domini ? Why Anno Domini ? Hmm....

 

[mitsho]

The first means, 'the year of the master', the second 'in the year of the master'. It's a dating method, in case you don't know Anno Domini 2005 we have atm.
But I agree with you, that it doesn't make much sense for a mod that is not placed in the years of the Middle Ages (wherer this expression was commonly used). But nevertheless, it's a good catching title. But really, before saying something bad: R8XFT, What did you mean with that title?

mfg mitsho

 

[Rob (R8XFT)]

First of all - the foreign advisor. In play:

The four different expressions:

@Goldflash: the advisors are single era only.

@onedreamer: yes, the mod is about fun and gameplay rather than historical gameplay. In fact, one thing that bores me to tears is when people take over threads with historical arguements . I'm interested in history and getting the "feel" of an era, graphically and gameplay-wise, but it is a game after all. Fun and playability are the main considerations in the mod. Saltmining might be late, but hey, it's a game.

@mitsho: I thought "Anno Domini" would be a cool title. Nothing more than that - and I'm keeping it as the title .

 

[mitsho]

I never said you should change it, i just tried to answer onedreamer's question.

The advisor looks good btw. It just seems to me that he has two different ears? and in the first picture, the two halves of the face don't look the same.

but, well, very good work anyways mitsho

 

[Rob (R8XFT)]

@Mishto: It's the way I've set up the lights and shadows - that's what makes the ears look how they do. I'm not 100% pleased with it though, so it could change.