This is kind of too wide-ranging a question to really debate much in a thread, but I see "honor" as kind of a society trait... and I do think it's linked to strong military resistance. The Spartans were indeed highly trained, but they had to believe in something to maintain the training and sacrifice; as a people they were often exceedingly polite, and looked at Athens and other Greeks as "less honorable" then themselves. Another example of "honor," in a kind of twisted form, is the tribal honor systems we see in areas of the Middle East. Afghanistan for instance, has been notoriously hard to capture from Alexander the Great until the present, and they often have seriously strict ideals of "honor," including revenge killings and the like. Anyway, no need go off on a tangent; I suppose I just have an easier time rationalizing this gameplay mechanism then Ahriman. Though, I can see his confusion with the joining policies and the creation of such bonus-inducing social policies. *And thanks for pointing out my typo in the previous post.