Applositic palace

[DrewBledsoe]

My fav Appalachian Palace resolution, is to reassign a city to its rightful owner (this really hurts the warmongerers) if they say yes, they lose a city, if they deny the resolution, and have the Apologetic Palace religion widely spread, they get mass and lose the monkshop and temple bonuses.

So get yourself voted leader of the Apatosaurus Palace, and cause some mischief

 

[zonk]

I suppose this as good a thread as any...

I play with ONLY the Conquest victory option enabled (had a really bad experience with a silly diplo victory abruptly ruining a fun game) - but - disabling diplomatic victory means the Apostolic Palace (and the UN, and Space Elevator because no Space Race) is not able to be built.

I see in the civ4buildinginfos.xml file that I could probably enable these wonders with a simple change to the victory conditions prereqs.... BUT would this then override my victory condition settings? If I allow the Apostolic Palace to be built in a Conquest-only game - can I be assured the diplo vote will NEVER occur? (Same question with the others, I guess... if I enable them - but have the corresponding victory conditions NOT selected - can I build the wonder and such, but not see the game end on any other victory condition?)

 

[V838 Mon]

The apocalyptic palace has just ruined another one of my games. 5000 years of peace with every civ, and good relations (8+) with over half, and the gimp with the apomictic palace declares war on me and then BANG! 16 other civs declare war on me simultaneously, nearly crashing my computer, destroying my trade network and eventually obliterating me from history. I wouldn't mind but 9 of them had MY state religion which was different to the apochromatic palace owner's. I guess I'll just have to accept that everyone hates me, even computer generated characters.

Am I the only one that thinks the apomictic palace is a waste of time in it's current incarnation, offering no real benefits when you're part of it, but being a complete pain in the arse when you're not?

 

[Stylesrj]

Heh, someone won the election one time. It was Persia. Because I wasn't the same religion (I had the largest population, but mixed religions), I couldn't be leader. I'd always vote Never! on things I hated and they'd never pass. I'd vote yes on things I do want though

Then one day, I was on Mass Media, building up the UN and this resolution came up. I didn't read it and just voted Yes. Next turn, Persia wins a diplomatic victory!

I reloaded the game and voted no next time, but still, I was in a huge conquest of the world and I lost to some chumped up weasel.
Worst of all, my leadership abilities earned me the rank of Dan Quayle...

After fixing the issue at hand, I won domination and got Augustus Caesar

 

[CliftonBazaar]

I'd always vote Never! on things and they'd never pass.

How bad was your unhappiness then? Each time you vote 'never!' you get -5 happiness per city (the world thinks that you are a villian).

 

[Stylesrj]

Unhappiness wasn't an issue. My Civ was fine... no riots broke out as far as i knew and I didn't vote Never! all the time, only one issues I hated, like Free Speech and Environmentalism... there was those options with the palace right?
Other than that, Single Currency and Open Markets, HELL YES!

EDIT: Previous post edited to say my real views

 

[Dan Quale]

I often see 1 candidate elections(usually the only christian civ), the funny part is that if you completely obliterate that civilization and take the palace, the only candidate becomes you reguardless of state religion. Every civ except 2 in my current game has christianity, but as far as voting goes it tends to end up slightly unfair. 460 votes for me 50 is for my vassal, 4,4,6,1,12,0,0 for everyone else left. For some strange reason, I have yet to lose an election, but no resolutions have arrisen.

 

[CliftonBazaar]

I have captured the palace before and never had an election; later I found out (via these forum boards) that I needed to be the same state religion as the palace in order to run votes.

The only explanation I can think of is that when the palace is built it is made the state religion of the building civ and can never be changed, even if the civ that built it change state religions.

 

[^alon^]

if you dont have anything to vote on...then there is no votes.....

when there is war' there is a vote...
when you conquerd a city there is a vote....stuff like that....