sidereal
Chieftain
I honestly have tried using them that much, but I really can't see a point. When I wanted 5 float stone it cost me 3 favors... I really like the idea but they don't give you anything.
Are favors completely useless?
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They just sweeten a deal mostly. They cost about 1 science or gold per turn each. If you have a stack of them and a co operation agreement with an AI then cash them in for science. They are also useful for either titanium or petrol, as sometimes you can be without them.
Moon Pine
Nuke Attack!!!
Favor's good. In civ5, when ai had nothing to trade, they made demend, while in be, they trade with favor.
Refuse a demend will cause a dow or serious relationship damage, but trade won't.
Refuse a demend will cause a dow or serious relationship damage, but trade won't.
Favors are worth 100 energy each by default (obviously, less if the AI hates you). The AI actually for some reason will accept 3 ept in exchange for 1 favor... which you can then sell back to them for 100 gold. So if you have 9 ept, you can trade it for an instant 300 energy from the AI.
Provided they have that much money saved up?
It definitely works. I just tried it out in game.
gpt for favor
favor for gold lump sum
dow
get gpt back
welcome to civ 5 gold exploit all over again LOL
1500 gold on turn 50... gonna buy 6 rangers with that money and take over some capitals
Cyon
Cosmonaut
Intresting use for favors, I asked Arc to stop spying on me, she hates me and refused, I then got the dialog option to insist which costed one favor, and she stopped spying on me! Have anyone else noticed this?
This mechanic should be expanded! It would be nice with a "stop attacking my station" which could be insisted for a favor. Or actions that could be forgiven for a favor like digging in others territories.
This mechanic should be expanded! It would be nice with a "stop attacking my station" which could be insisted for a favor. Or actions that could be forgiven for a favor like digging in others territories.
CraziFuzzy
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You can do this without favors as well, can't you? Simply trade ept for energy, then DOW to renege on the deal.
Oh I guess you can actually directly trade gpt for gold lump sums, I just assumed that bug/"feature" was removed and the favor system just was a way to work around it.
sylvanllewelyn
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Useful but, a faction with 1500 gold on turn 50, will not be bothered by 6 rangers plus bunch of marines.
5 rangers already built+ 6 from rush buying =11 rangers
and they will be soon upgraded to gunners
and it was 1500 I got from fleecing all the other civs, not just one
so what if I'm at war with the entire world now, I will soon control 3 capitals
CraziFuzzy
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I have not verified whether it can or cannot be done this way, just thought it might. Used to use that in MP games years ago to loan to teammates.
I just tried it in a single player game, it definitely works.
CraziFuzzy
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so, another point towards favors being useless. 
Ryika
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Yeah, there's also a "Remember what I've done for you."-option when you ask them if they want to declare war on someone with you.
I actually completely missed that until yesterday and I have to say that... now I like favors more than before.
And on top of that you do still get a positive diplomatic boost for favor-deals (that have the "gift"-dialog).
So overall, they're clearly not useless, instead they're an interesting expansion of the "Can I haz xy?"-System from Civ 5, only that you now also get some gold/dialog options in return instead of just a diplo-boost. Probably still not the most useful thing ever, but it's an improvement.
Hmm i was not aware of this. Favors seem like a terrible deal economically(yeah if you could just give me a 1/3rd of your treasury i might give you 100 energy later, or possibly a strategic resource!) but if they can be used for diplomatic situations that makes them a lot more interesting.
alpaca
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Ugh, don't remind me. I had an AI ask me for 67
per turn yesterday in exchange for one favor using the gift interface. Afterwards they were pissed off because I refused to give them 40% of my science. Needless to say, I was so infuriated by this that I declared war on them as soon as I had my unique unit (would probably have done so anyways, but an insult is always a good excuse for war).
