No.Dice
Warlord
Its 430 BC, i should have been in the middle ages centuries ago. I find myself trailing by two techs, and i've just forked over Elipi to the persians, for a peace treaty. Even though they posed no threat, I've signed an expensive peace treaty with the Greeks, for the luxury trading oppurtunities. Got to get those cities to size six. Not to mention that untimely golden age. That just leaves the Zulu, Romans, and the Iroquois to go, all of which i'm pretty confident i can fight to a stalemate with the Persians off my back. Lets back up.
The setting is a huge Pangaea, random civ, emperor difficulty, 16 civs.
My empire is humming along, using a Dense build (first two cities, rest were spaced semi-correctly), i've managed to keep even expansion pace with half of the AI civs on emperor difficulty. The rest are ahead a city or two, too far flung to produce military units any time soon.
The Greeks demand tribute, a territory map and a bit of gold. I've handily outexpanded them, and my advisor tells me my military is the same size as his, i refuse. He declares war, but hes far away, so i don't even halt my settler production. No big deal.
A few turns later, the Persians join the bandwagon. A territory map and a similiar amount of gold he wants. However Xerxes is the top dog, and the only one with a 3 city lead on me. My advisor informs me his military is bigger than mine. Previously, i've checked if he has any per turn income, and he doesn't. Confident that he can't afford to sign any alliances, i tell him to get lost. Needless to say, i'm at war.
With this development, i give everybody of note two seperate 1 gpt payoffs, to discourage them from going to war with me as well, though i know for a fact the Greeks and Persians have nothing to give them.
Relations were faltering with the Americans, so i check if Abe is making any gold per turn, i breathe a sigh of relief, he isn't. I quickly check all of the other civs. Nobody is making any gold per turn.
A few turns later, the Zulu, (whom i had a right of passage with no less!) decide to join the ever growing bandwagon. This however is disturbing, the Zulu border me to the north.
I increase the top 4 civs pay off by 2 more gpt. Long story short, i'm at war with 6 civs, through a chain reaction of alliances. The Persians recruit the Zulu, who recruit the Romans, and then Persia buys the Iroquois into the war and so on.
Now i try to sign an alliance (while at war) against the Persians, the Americans, (who never did declare war) are insulted by the deal of 27 gpt and 200 gold. Not that i'd pay this much, but just wanted to see how high abe wanted me to go. Okay, i figure, the Persians are the strongest, i'd be reluctant too. I see if Abe will fight the Iroquois, the weakest civ, nope. I check the Aztecs, they're insulted by the aforementioned deal as well. Well, bah, who needs em.
I lose 3 vet spearmen and a bowman, to two regular warriors. I lose the city and my second source of Iron and a fair amount of gold that i was exporting it for. It just isn't my day.
So how can they afford to sign these alliances with no per turn income, and 100 gold in the bank? I insult them by offering 27 gpt, and 200 gold. I'm within 25 points of everyone on the histograph, and my military is equal with everybody except the Romans and Persians. Its not like i'm fighting a hopeless war here. I guess Hammurabi is just not well liked, despite being surrounded by middle-eastern civs that he should share a diplomatic boost with.
In my future ventures in Emperor, i'm playing on continents, where there will be far less people to gang up on me.
Huge map by the way.
Just venting, and pointing out what seems the slightest bit fishy. It seems a bit like the 1.17 tech-trading, civs with no per turn income, acquire even the most expensive techs/services with ease. Or perhaps i just tick everybody off, and the AI nations are more than happy to rid the world of me. Or perhaps even yet, i make excuses for my diplomatic incompetence. 
The setting is a huge Pangaea, random civ, emperor difficulty, 16 civs.
My empire is humming along, using a Dense build (first two cities, rest were spaced semi-correctly), i've managed to keep even expansion pace with half of the AI civs on emperor difficulty. The rest are ahead a city or two, too far flung to produce military units any time soon.
The Greeks demand tribute, a territory map and a bit of gold. I've handily outexpanded them, and my advisor tells me my military is the same size as his, i refuse. He declares war, but hes far away, so i don't even halt my settler production. No big deal.
A few turns later, the Persians join the bandwagon. A territory map and a similiar amount of gold he wants. However Xerxes is the top dog, and the only one with a 3 city lead on me. My advisor informs me his military is bigger than mine. Previously, i've checked if he has any per turn income, and he doesn't. Confident that he can't afford to sign any alliances, i tell him to get lost. Needless to say, i'm at war.
With this development, i give everybody of note two seperate 1 gpt payoffs, to discourage them from going to war with me as well, though i know for a fact the Greeks and Persians have nothing to give them.
Relations were faltering with the Americans, so i check if Abe is making any gold per turn, i breathe a sigh of relief, he isn't. I quickly check all of the other civs. Nobody is making any gold per turn.
A few turns later, the Zulu, (whom i had a right of passage with no less!) decide to join the ever growing bandwagon. This however is disturbing, the Zulu border me to the north.
I increase the top 4 civs pay off by 2 more gpt. Long story short, i'm at war with 6 civs, through a chain reaction of alliances. The Persians recruit the Zulu, who recruit the Romans, and then Persia buys the Iroquois into the war and so on.
Now i try to sign an alliance (while at war) against the Persians, the Americans, (who never did declare war) are insulted by the deal of 27 gpt and 200 gold. Not that i'd pay this much, but just wanted to see how high abe wanted me to go. Okay, i figure, the Persians are the strongest, i'd be reluctant too. I see if Abe will fight the Iroquois, the weakest civ, nope. I check the Aztecs, they're insulted by the aforementioned deal as well. Well, bah, who needs em.
I lose 3 vet spearmen and a bowman, to two regular warriors. I lose the city and my second source of Iron and a fair amount of gold that i was exporting it for. It just isn't my day.
So how can they afford to sign these alliances with no per turn income, and 100 gold in the bank? I insult them by offering 27 gpt, and 200 gold. I'm within 25 points of everyone on the histograph, and my military is equal with everybody except the Romans and Persians. Its not like i'm fighting a hopeless war here. I guess Hammurabi is just not well liked, despite being surrounded by middle-eastern civs that he should share a diplomatic boost with.
In my future ventures in Emperor, i'm playing on continents, where there will be far less people to gang up on me.
Huge map by the way.Just venting, and pointing out what seems the slightest bit fishy.
It seems a bit like the 1.17 tech-trading, civs with no per turn income, acquire even the most expensive techs/services with ease. Or perhaps i just tick everybody off, and the AI nations are more than happy to rid the world of me. Or perhaps even yet, i make excuses for my diplomatic incompetence. 
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