These strike me more as concept art (/models) rather than finalised units. It also seems more likely imo that they changed their minds about what time period the IPs should conform to dress-wise than that they designed atomic age IP models this far in advance and then put them in a graphic to show IP designs throughout the ages instead of the actual modern age ones.
I'd be surprised if the Ottomans released as an in-game naval civ. But I think their association with Barbary piracy and great naval battles like Lepanto is enough justification to include them in a naval-themed pack, as this potentially could be, even though they would be the odd one out with non-naval abilities.
Actually I’d argue World War II was the crisis and did change the fundamental nature of the United States from being an isolationist, racially segregated country to an industrial powerhouse that got thrust into the very middle of the global stage, becoming the leader of Western ideology, taking on various international mantles and issues that it refused to engage with before, and became an integrated nation expanding its influence through both soft and hard power. I mean, World War II changed the entire face of the planet in more ways than one for EVERYONE, of course, but the pre-World War II United States is drastically different in many ways from the post-World War II United States.
I absolutely don't think we need any more American civs, but if we did go for one I'd absolutely go for maroon communities and something like the Great Dismal Swamp before the confederacy gets their own civ
Yeah I don’t understand how anyone in their right mind would want Firaxis to add a CSA civ.I absolutely don't think we need any more American civs, but if we did go for one I'd absolutely go for maroon communities and something like the Great Dismal Swamp before the confederacy gets their own civ
This may surprise you but the US is not the center of the universe.I'm so tired of the anti-American animus pervading these forums.
American history has been sufficiently impactful on the modern world to justify at least three American civs: Colonial America (Exploration), America (Modern), and United States (Fourth Age)
I'd personally prefer more than that (the Republic of Texas & Dixie), but I'm biased (but in the right direction)
Nazca is not a bad option.
Since civ 5, the Ottomans have had a weirdly naval focus in civ games. I suspect it's some wargamers behind the scenes at Firaxis. Would definitely believe that this is intended to be a naval pack.
Yes, and I don't think Nazca is any more obscure to a casual player than Tonga, for example. Its Lines are quite famous and appear quite a bit on these History, Science, and Aliens channels. Another option would be Tiwanaku, which is equally a great choice, though that one might actually be less well-known to casual players.They need an Andean precursor civilization to the Incas to make a logical switch to them. Bring on that ancient weaving culture from Peru.
Indeed, an Andean predecessor to the Incas is a high priority right now, but unfortunately, there doesn’t seem to be anything on the horizon in the near future. I'd be very disappointed if there isn’t a pack focused on the Americas after so many additional civs with no sign of American civilizations. South America is empty now. Anyway, either Tiwanaku or Nazca would make me happy at this point, while the other could be included later in the development cycle.
South America is specially empty when compared to North America, right now.
