Avatar of Wrath is crashing my game

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Ive been playing this game for awhile now and I tried out the Calabim civ with the Ashen Veil. At turn ~1133 the AC reached 91 and the Avatar of wrath was summoned, but now I keep getting a waiting for other civilizations message that wont go away. I tried waiting longer but it was still going on after 12 hours so I gave up. I read somewhere that going back to a previous save might help and I tried that. It caused no problem the turn the Avatar was summoned but it still causes the same waiting message the next turn and I cant proceed. Is there anything that I can do or do I just have to start a new game? Thanks for any advice.
 
this is a known bug in base ffh
you may want to ask bruenor to fix your savegame or you could just switch to wildmana :)
 
Post a save and I'll check it out. You can also wait for patch o and see if that will fix your problem, no idea when it will be released however.
 
The first save is my current game, the second one is back a turn(2?) right before the AC reached 90. At that point I had already killed one of my own units to prevent the AC from reaching 90 but the combat that follows that turn proved too much to stop.
 

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First save didn't WoC for me, so most likely fixed in patch o. I'm going to stop looking at these WoCs/CtDs until patch o is released since it takes such a long time to check, just to say "probably fixed in the next patch, which I've no idea when it'll be released".
 
The first save is my current game, the second one is back a turn(2?) right before the AC reached 90. At that point I had already killed one of my own units to prevent the AC from reaching 90 but the combat that follows that turn proved too much to stop.

Sigh.

I usually can't fix these avatar of Wrath WoC's and it looks like I have failed again. The problem is that eliminating something doesn't stabilize the WoC, it can change the way an AI civ moves/groups so there isn't a stable base.

So, I've done the following tests:

L = Lanun
S = Sidar
M = Malakim
Lu = Luchuirp
B = Balseraph
I = Infernals
G = Grigori

If you eliminate Then

L, S, M, Lu WoC
B, I, C WoC
L, S, M, Lu, B, I WoC

(Meaining that there is a WoC related to the Grigori)

S, M, Lu, I, G No WoC

G, M, S No WoC

G, M WoC

G, S WoC

Sorry, I just can't get this to work. The last three tests are particularly frustrating, showing the fdifficulty of stabilizing.

The good news is that you have CLEARLY won the game, by a landslide.

Best wishes,

Breunor
 
Well thanks for trying at least. There isnt a way to disable/remove the avatar, possibly with some mod is there? I dont want this to happen again in a future game and I hear this isnt uncommon when she is summoned. Otherwise, this has to be the greatest mod I've ever played; I just wish I had discovered it sooner.
 
Well thanks for trying at least. There isnt a way to disable/remove the avatar, possibly with some mod is there? I dont want this to happen again in a future game and I hear this isnt uncommon when she is summoned. Otherwise, this has to be the greatest mod I've ever played; I just wish I had discovered it sooner.

I'm pretty sure there is an option to play without the AC, although this can change the game quite a bit.

Best wishes,

Breunor
 
The same thing just happened to me. So fustrating. I really wanted to see what happened when the counter got to 100. I hope the patch is released soon. Anyone know how common this bug is? Does it happen every game or is it a rare problem.
 
Dunno its the first time I got it, but thats probably because its the first time I went Ashen Veil. The big problem for me was just how many turns in i was when it crashed :D
 
The same thing just happened to me. So fustrating. I really wanted to see what happened when the counter got to 100. I hope the patch is released soon. Anyone know how common this bug is? Does it happen every game or is it a rare problem.

Unfortunately, we don't (or at least I don't) know how rare it is. People will often post when they trigger the bug, but we don't have a record of how many games go without the bug. That is, people getting to AC 90, getting the Avatar of Wrath, and having the game work normally don't post this fact. Therefore, we cannot determine how common it is.

If you want, post the save and I'll see if I can fix it, but I can't promise anything; I've had a tough time with this bug.

Best wishes,

Breunor
 
I appreciate the offer but its ok.
From prior posts it looks like the chance of recovery are slim.
Anyways I already started a new game.
No more ashen veil for me though too fustrating.
 
its happened to me before alot, altho it dident happen immediatly with the sheaim, it played for 10more turns then crashed lol. its always when he cast the thing that messes with all the units
 
Unfortunately, we don't (or at least I don't) know how rare it is. People will often post when they trigger the bug, but we don't have a record of how many games go without the bug. That is, people getting to AC 90, getting the Avatar of Wrath, and having the game work normally don't post this fact. Therefore, we cannot determine how common it is.

If you want, post the save and I'll see if I can fix it, but I can't promise anything; I've had a tough time with this bug.

Best wishes,

Breunor

Out of my three games were the AC went over 90, I never got the Wrath WoC, so it can't be too terribly common... that, or I'm just really lucky.
 
It just happened to me, and I was like, "I wonder if this is a known bug," and then this thread was, like, here.
 
Out of my three games were the AC went over 90, I never got the Wrath WoC, so it can't be too terribly common... that, or I'm just really lucky.

I kind of get the impression it could be a more recent bug with the latest patches. Either way, it is an important bug to fix, and I've seen several people having this problem.
 
Sigh.

I usually can't fix these avatar of Wrath WoC's and it looks like I have failed again.

hey, don't beat yourself up too bad, you fixed mine last month!

Also, if someone is starting to keep a record of how common it is, I am one for one getting this bug. I haven't played for a while, mostly because I started playing through the scenarios and after a while I started getting CoD every time I would try to start a new one.
 
I know this is late, but hopefully this can save some frustrations in future..

This should allow you to continue past AC90, but avatar will not work properly (will not cause units to become mad):

edit Fall from Heaven 2/Assets/XML/GlobalDefinesAlt.xml and change:
<Define>
<DefineName>WRATH_CONVERT_CHANCE</DefineName>
<iDefineIntVal>50</iDefineIntVal>
</Define>
to:
<Define>
<DefineName>WRATH_CONVERT_CHANCE</DefineName>
<iDefineIntVal>0</iDefineIntVal>
</Define>
 
Thanks deanej, Ii think that wouldl be really helpful. I know a lot of us tend to wait for 'official' patches, we wanted to see Kael weigh in; however, realistically I don't think that will happen as Kael has moved on.

It may be a good idea to have a stickied thread for 'patches' as opposed to whole mods. Tholal posted a pyre-zombies and Sone of Asena patch; if you can post a fix to the Avator of Wrath bug, I think a lot of people would appreciate it. It seems to me to be the msot serious bug still out there.

So an appeal to ANYONE - please post a save that deanej can fix! I tend to not get high ac's, but some of you do (Sheaim players?) so it would be great if you sent one in!

Best wishes,

Breunor
 
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