Awesome Turnaround

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So I am in a G&K game and feel compelled to share a special moment in the game.

The difficulty is deity and the map is large Pangaea.

The beginning of the game was very rough due to an aggressive neighbor, Hiawatha. He DOW'ed me very quickly and after much fighting using archers and warriors, I was able to force him to surrender and give up the city, Grand River.
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A city with 8 population being handed to you is NOT as nice as it may seem! Getting back to positive happiness was difficult. I would have conquered the city instead, had I thought about the consequences.

Anyways, some time passes and I send a horseman out to help my scout explore. I happen to stumble upon Hiawatha again. Only this time he's ripping Suleiman apart. Poor Suleiman. :lol:
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Naturally, I decided that this was the perfect time to attack him again because the majority of his force was out of position . I wanted his capital, but there was one small problem. His capital is practically impenetrable!
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With only 3 tiles to attack the city with melee units, and archers being unable to fire from any position due to the trees, I didn't think there would be a way to break it down. This is also the Iroquois we are talking about. They are in their dominant time period with their unique unit and to top it off they have double movement through all of those forests! Owch.

But then, I had a great idea. I had never used the Great General's special ability before, but I saw a potential use for it here.

So, I made sure my other immediate neighbor was cool with me DOW'ing Hiawatha.
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And then I set up a citadel RIGHT on top of the city using my great general. The citadel provides a 100% defensive bonus to any unit standing inside of it, and any enemy units within one tile of it takes 30 damage. Much to my surprise, the damage also occurs to units INSIDE the city as well. My position was absolutely unbreakable.
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It even cleared the forest on that tile, so my archers could hit the city from multiple positions now. Also, it stole 2 fur tiles for me! The city eventually fell, but I don't have a screenshot or a save near that time unfortunately.

I just thought I would share this, because I felt quite clever turning a seemingly impossible situation into an easy one by using a mechanic that I had never used before. ;)
 
Yep, I've found the culture bomb + citadel GG ability is actually now very useful, especially at "force projection" into nearby neighboring cities (though I've not managed to drop a citadel right next to a capitol as you were able to - still, even a citadel a tile away from a capitol really ups the odds in your favor - really ups the survivability of catapults/trebuchets which otherwise can easily die in 1-2 turns if the AI decides to focus fire them).

I don't miss the Golden Ages from the GGs anymore - I just stockpile my GGs and use them like you did to augment pushes into enemy territory.
 
Nice story, and smart way to get the city.
 
this is very helpfull as I did not know this was an option.
 
Well done mate, did that myself in my latest game. Plopped a GG down in a seemingly impenetrable city (mountains on 4 sides, hill on 1 and forest on the last) and ended up taking it easily. Did the same thing again in a hilly region, was able to bombard 2 Japanese cities and take them in only a few turns :)
 
This reminds me of one of my hardest wars ever: Invading Hiawathas forest empire that had Great Wall build! My units were mega slow and under constant ambushes.
 
Very interesting :goodjob:

Didn't know it was possible to put citadel into ennemy territory and do damage to units parked in cities.
 
I wana add another thing that is maybe not known by everybody but could help in a situation like this: If you bring workers into the enemy land you can cut down jungels and forests and even repair pillaged buildings which I have't tested but I could probably give you some extra gold.
 
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