B06 - Bella gets jealous OCC AWE

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

One morning, Bella woke up, dissatisfied. At first, she thought because she was a woman and that this morning would be like any other. But then, she remembered. Being a woman wasn't hard enough as it was, she had to be a woman in power. My god! was the pressure of ruling her city painful. Don't you go talking about a second one ... you get so much pressure for being a woman in the first place.

She looked over her castle's tower and figured it would be much less stressful if she could make her advisors stop comparing her to other women with power. They're just not quite as pretty anyways. And the men ... men don't deserve to rule. They have no feelings. So it was set: she'd go at it and take the heads off the other rulers.

Isabella, after seeing that her will was enough for 2 handfuls of contenders (and she knows the meaning of "2 handfuls"), decided that some of the contenders had to be put to the test. At one point, enough is enough, and getting rid of one of them sounded like a brilliant idea. Namely, Whomp and Tubs. But to please the lady, there had to be some sort of challenge to test their virtue ...

C3C 1.22 Patch
Level: Emp
Variant: Always War
Map Type: 'Pelago 70%
Size: Small

Civilization: Spain
Age: Rocky
Temperature: Med
Climate: Med
Barbarians: Restless
Rivals: Random
AI Aggression: Medium


Victory Condition:All enabled
Culturally linked starts: Off
Respawn: Off
Preserve Random Seed: On
Cultural Conversion: On

It will be a relaxed OCC, ie: if the opportunity presents itself, we may hold 3 cities for a turn and build an army.

Please be a DG+ player to sign in. I will honor my invitations and former partners first, but otherwise the roster is re-opened. Please take a minute to read the rules; if you're unsure about any exploit, ask, or better even, refrain.

Roster, Team A:
Mathias
Tubby Rower
Own
Iroquois Plisken

Stolen from Handy, with some shame but great reverence:

Spoiler AW generalities :

No looking at techs, cities, resources, etc in deals unless we have a spy planted with that civ.


Always War Boilerplate as we play it.
You may only trade when you first meet a civilization, and must declare war on the same turn after trading is complete. If you see a new AI unit, you must make contact & declare war that turn. Absolutely no GPT trades allowed. If you see a new face on F4, you are obligated to declare war that turn (after trading). Players must declare war if they are exploring and see AI units, but are not required to actually attack the units they come in contact with. No peace treaties, ever. You may check F4 as often as you like to spy on the AI's tech, resources, luxuries & city count.

Discuss any move that seems exploitive before doing it with the team. Although there are not too many exploits available in AW, we’ll follow the forbidden blatant exploits banned by GOTM and RBCiv such as no "Free Wealth". Other normal game exploits such as "Baiting the AI" with an empty city to create a kill zone are an AW tradition and are allowed. Also, you ARE allowed to initially keep a city, move a settler to the same spot as the city, and then abandon and immediately resettle. This is considered an exploit in RBCiv rules, but is okay in our AW games. In addition if you need to build a city one square deeper into enemy territory just to move borders to steal a resource, go for it. We may keep or raze cities, and can keep slaves. You may whip at will, including captured cities or cities where all citizens are unhappy.

SG Stuff
You have 24 hours for an "I got it" and 72 to play. If you need a one day extension, then mention this before the 72 hours are up. Players can work out skips between themselves, just post a message to the thread. If you can't play within 72 total, switch places or ask for a skip. [10 turns each always.]

Lucky candle to light the way.

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

I've decided to start this SG after finding this start with mapfinder:

I haven't tested it, so it might be a dead-end start. Would we be unable to make it on this map, we may want to try either of these: one is dead north with a good hill/wheat combo, great for production and isolation. The other has ivory - period.

Edit: I forgot to keep the minimaps. Fish one is halfway south from dead center. Ivory start is about ¾ north, across the left-right border of the map. North one is the very NW corner of the map.

Edit2: #1 and #3 have been edited so as to not have "Respawn AI" on. By some odd strike of luck, I couldn't get either start 2 or 3 to be the exact same as they were: #2 was totally different and #3 is located a few tiles W, right by the ivory (still on a lake though). I did not change #2 for that reason.

 

[Own]

In answer to your PM, I will join this. It looks really tough though. I would go for the first one, lack of BG may be a problem though.

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

Fog-gazing says 2NW is a BG, W-SW a grassland forest (one in 3 chance), and we've got a plains cow, hill+mountain. It's AW material without a doubt

 

[Own]

Yeah, I knew about that BG, but still not much. By the way, don't you think those huge BG graphics are cheating , it's impossible to fog gaze BG's in firaxian graphics.

 

[IroquoisPlisken]

Signing in (figured I might forget if I waited until morning ).

This is going to be tough: I've never won an AW game, and I've never even played a OCC before, but I've always wanted to.

I'm split between 1 and 3. I'm leaning towards 1 since it seems to have plenty of food and shields. That looks like a freshwater lake the city will be on, though, so we'll have no ocean access (well, with the relaxed OCC rules, that's not as much of a problem).

 

[Whomp]

I'm so in. I would suggest 1 as well. @B Did you check the tiles to see if it's fresh or salt water?

 

[Mathias]

You can stop twisting my arm... I'm in.

Edit:
RE freshwater/saltwater: Seafaring

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

And so the cards are laid.

Roster (closed, sign-in order, say so if you'd rather have a fancy timezone one or not have to play after me):
Cmdr Id. B - too lazy to move the settler
Own - starts writing on his "eternal Own vs B disagreement" paper
Lt. Sr Id. IP - will soon learn that AW and OCC don't mix
Major Id. Whomper - has removed his christmas hat .. or was it Bella ?
Math - curing the evil blisters

It is indeed salty water, with a touch of fresh water, on each. I'll move worker to cow and settle on the spot, tomorrow.

Thanks for the interest
For the others, and I hope it'll bring a good lurk

 

[Smart]

This SG was filled too fast, can you open extra slot for me?
First start is most acceptable, imho.

 

[soul_warrior]

i would have chosen start 1, but seems...
Sleep, Sleep, Macbeth hath murdered Sleep
ill lurk this one
but i would shut up, mind you!!!

 

[Tubby Rower]

Holy cow!!! Already filled... I have to stop going to bed so early.

I'll lurk this one. GL

 

[IroquoisPlisken]

With so much interest, perhaps we should do two groups. It could even become a friendly competition.

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

Well, my God, I thought I'd barely even get a roster for a C3C game.

We're 8, how about two teams of 4 ? I'll randomize the rosters and orders and open a new thread if it is the general wish. I played my set but will refrain from commenting, spoiler issues ...

 

[Smart]

OCC games are more fast then normal ones, can we manage 8-players roster?
Maybe make this SG public?

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

I'm liking the 2 rosters idea.

Ok So I took the order of posting for designation:
1. B, 2. Own, 3. IP, 4. Whomper, 5. Math, 6. Smart, 7. Soul, 8. Tubs

I asked the calculator for log(2)/pi, and took the order of decimal appearances from 1 to 8: 5823 6714

That means roster 1:
Mathias
Tubby Rower
Own
Iroquois Plisken

and roster 2:
Smart
Soul Warrior
Whomp
Beorner

That is, if all the people who have just missed the game haven't lost all the mojo inducing dream of leading Isabella's pimps to an OCC AW victory over the world. The saves and screenies are all in here at everyone's disposal. If I get positive comments about this I'll start a second thread for my B team and lay sportsmanship rules for the competition. Every word of input will be considered with all due idiocy

 

[Smart]

Teams like SGOTM?
I don't think that it's a good idea, better is to start second SG
And what do you think about making this SG open?

 

[Tubby Rower]

I'm fine either way B. I'd like to try the OCC AWE. I'm always up for beating Whomp down

Do you want me to open the other thread in order to keep things seperate? The only problem is that some of the players of the old TR (loser series) games might get jealous.

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

Alright Tubs, a Whomp beating it is. However, I got randomly assigned to Team B (pun intended ) so this thread is hereby yours. Or Math's, or anyone's for that matter. I'll start B06-B when I get to write my turnlog. If you want me to change anything in the header just send a pm.

If more players show up, they'll be added in the team of their liking, default would be A-B-A-B if they are weakly opinionated.

As for a competition proper, I think beating this will be a good challenge enough. Remember I left all VC's, so 20K is an option. If we both get the axe grinded and the world to Bella's feet, I'd be cool with declaring the winner on either fastest finish or most culture. If either team goes 20K, it'll have to be fastest finish. If you think score means anything , it can also be considered - though we'll have plenty of time to settle on this. It's not like it was a top concern anyways (except for Tubs and Whomp).

I'll dress my Whomp for war and have at it

 

[Whomp]

I throw down the gauntlet at Tubby's feet.

The only thing I see saving him is the quality of individuals surrounding him. For that he is blessed.....I say bring it on brudder!