Barbarian camp

[El Bogus]

Am I going crazy? Reddit post with over 1000 upvotes. Is there such a thing as a barbarian camp in Civ IV?
I haven't found anything in the Civilopedia nor have I experienced it ingame.

 

[Gumbolt]

Am I going crazy? Reddit post with over 1000 upvotes. Is there such a thing as a barbarian camp in Civ IV?
I haven't found anything in the Civilopedia nor have I experienced it ingame.

Nope! They can capture cities. They can also spawn cities where there are barb units in the fog. They do not build camps on civ 4.

 

[El Bogus]

Okay! Thanks for the quick response. When I think about it: Can barbs even spawn on turn 0?

 

[El Bogus]

Ah yes, that's plausible. Warrior enters a tribal village, barb warrior spawns next to settler, settler founds a city. Barb razes capital, instant loss. I see, how that can happen.

 

[Gumbolt]

I have huts turned off on my games. So maybe this is what they meant.

You can't get barbs from huts before you have settled a city. After you have settled a city it can happen. So in theory you could explore map just to explore huts and not settle a city. Of course I doubt this would be much use on higher levels as you mainly get gold/maps or scouts. You might also lose game from not settling a city. Of course difficulty level afects what you get from huts too. Immortal plus you are much more likely to get barbs from huts.

 

[lymond]

Yep, certain he is referring to tribal villages (or goody huts). In my millions of games played, I've never seen a settler spawn on top of a hut. But certainly with huts adjacent. Maybe he moved into a hut and spawned a barb, which is possible, but you would want to avoid that as you get better results from letting your city culture pop the hut. Also, pretty sure you don't pop barbs from huts in close proximity to your city, but in this case it sounds like he popped a hut before settling his city.

 

[Archon_Wing]

Reddit doesn't know what it's talking about.

In other news, water can be wet.

 

[Lennier]

I made the mistake of looking at the Reddit post and viewing the posted video. I don't know what game the poster was going playing, but it wasn't Civ IV.

 

[civfanchambers]

Civ3 had barb camps. But spawning at turn 0? Definitely not civ4.

 

[Lennier]

Yes it did--but the game wasn't Civ 3 either.

 

[Xpl]

I thought huts were great when I'd pop BW, with my highlight in a MP game leaving a hut in the tundra north on an island to pop a medieval tech like some nomadic bulbing strategy. Then I popped 3 warriors, killing my warrior and second city settler, and have never had them on since. Still, not nearly as stupid as losing an entire stack of transport ships from random events.

Reddit doesn't know what it's talking about.

In other news, water can be wet.

What I love about Civ4 on reddit is the few and rare times it gets mentioned, you get one or two serious veterans like us popping out, but mostly casual old timers who bought the game on disc, and simply playing the newer versions. Do remember someone claiming civ4 had 'more visible' design space and diplomacy, and then having to remind them that the BUG mod was developed because you still had to click 3-4 windows to find if people were plotting, when your GPs spawned etc etc. Not as bad as 5 granted, but the game still hid a lot of information contrary to what people think.

 

[Imperator Knoedel]

Tell me about it, my post in which I said that there are no barb camps in IV got downvoted to 0. There's just no reasoning with some people.

Edit: Also those people who say barb camps only spawn at turn 1, not 0, are obviously talking about V.

 

[El Bogus]

Yeah, it's strange. I got downvoted, too. I didn't notice you've commented in my comment chain. I feel a little bit honored, now. Am I blessed now by Saint Watermill?

 

[Imperator Knoedel]

Am I blessed now by Saint Watermill?

Yes. Whenever you throw a wheel into a river from now on, it shall bestow food, production and commerce alike upon you.