Barbarians are tougher? Patch 1.22

[valamas]

Is it me or are these Barbarians not wimps anymore. Lost numerous units trying to clear them off my continent at Emporer level. I mention my level as if they are tougher, maybe it is a toughness modification to my difficulty level.

 

[Gumby78]

Yes, Barbarians do seem tougher.

Attack Bonus Against Barbarians

Cheiftain: 800%
Warlord: 400%
Regent: 200%
Monarch: 100%
Emperor: 50%
Demigod: 25%
Deity, Sid: 0%

 

[al_thor]

I have heard (and experienced) this condition. I play at Emporer or Demigod. I don't care for it at all, and lately have been shutting the barbs off.
I would have to say that the AI does not experience this bonus - they seem to slice through the barbs like a knife through butter, while my units have a difficult time indeed.

 

[SesnOfWthr]

Aren't the attack bonuses for the AI reverse from our attack bonus? ie they get a bigger bonus at the higher levels?

 

[al_thor]

Iwould not doubt that, seeing as how they just slaughter them. I've seen one AI Regular Warrior take out a whole Barb encampment singel-handedly. Meanwhile, my Veteran team of Archer, Spear and Warrior get trounced. I just got sick of watching that. The AI gets enough bonus at the higher levels, they don't need that as well.

 

[general_kill]

Is there a way of changing this in the map editor?

 

[Eyeoftiger]

Originally posted by general_kill
Is there a way of changing this in the map editor?

I don't know about that, but you can turn off the barbs at the beginning of the game completely. And if you're an expansionist Civ, you'll never encounter them on your own.

 

[CIVPhilzilla]

Originally posted by Eyeoftiger
I don't know about that, but you can turn off the barbs at the beginning of the game completely. And if you're an expansionist Civ, you'll never encounter them on your own.

Even if you are expansionist you will still have barbs. Just not from goody huts, but your scouts are still vunrable to the other ones that have established encampments.

 

[alexman]

Originally posted by SesnOfWthr
Aren't the attack bonuses for the AI reverse from our attack bonus? ie they get a bigger bonus at the higher levels?

The AI always plays at Regent for barb purposes, so they get 200% bonus versus them.

 

[Sukenis]

So that is why I got overran by barbarians on my first Emperor game. I kept wondering why I could not beat up the barbarians like I used to.