Barbarians renamed Terrorists after Modern Era

[Ron Wee]

should be

 

[Cerilis]

and revolutionaries in industrial era?

 

[Canadian Bluebeer]

Call them "PITA"s from day one and be done with it.

 

[Returning Lurker]

Ancient- Tribals
Classical- Barbarians
Medieval- Raiders
Renaissance- Pirates
Industrial- Luddites
Modern- Revolutionaries
Atomic- Insurgents
Information- Terrorists

 

[Morningcalm]

Hm. But terrorists infiltrate modern society far better than modern barbarians can. Might be a better change if worked in with a new random events system in VI.

 

[Kinestic]

Plus, ancient barbs as "tribals" wouldn't work as the goody hut is a "Tribal Village".

 

[Photi]

"terrorists" are historical groups that go against the would-be hegemon, barbarians are pre-history tribes fighting against historical hegemons, two different phenomena. not a good idea to include "terrrorism" in the game as it is a relative concept with no good non-relative definition.

 

[Returning Lurker]

Plus, ancient barbs as "tribals" wouldn't work as the goody hut is a "Tribal Village".

What about Warbands?

 

[Guandao]

I'm opposed to the Ancient Barbs being called Tribals. Tribe is a problematic term to me due to my educational background in anthropology.
I think back to the depiction of a presumably Australian Aboriginal man named Norte Chico as a Barbarian leader in Civ Rev...

 

[God of Kings]

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

There should be an era to call barbarians "partisans." After all, spies can recruit partisans.

 

[dunkleosteus]

Barbarians are a catch-all for any anti-establishment or anti-civilization party in Civ though. While terrorism has really only been a thing since globalization really got going, many of the other suggestions for different names for barbarians are definitely not era-specific: piracy has been a thing for as long as trade has been conducted over the seas, and their land counter parts probably longer: bandits.

Depending on the conditions barbarians spawn under, barbarians could be called pirates, bandits, revolutionaries, natives (/indigenous people), terrorists, etc.

 

[BlueFlamingWings]

I have a idea/suggestion about barbarians.

Historically, barbarians have just been used by one civilization to describe the "other" - it owes it's root meaning in the word "barbs" which Spaniards used to describe the Moors invading from Africa. It's possible to have "barbarianization" be a Cacus Belli if another Civ is culturally distinct and/or a fair distance away from you.

Though that does raise the question of "what do we call the enemies that blindly attack you for no reason" outside of just getting rid of them entirely.

 

[magha77]

Ancient- Tribals
Classical- Barbarians
Medieval- Raiders
Renaissance- Pirates
Industrial- Luddites
Modern- Revolutionaries
Atomic- Insurgents
Information- Terrorists

This is a great idea. All of them.

 

[God of Kings]

This is a great idea. All of them.

Add in partisans as well!

 

[Pythakoreas]

Barbarians are a catch-all for any anti-establishment or anti-civilization party in Civ though. While terrorism has really only been a thing since globalization really got going, many of the other suggestions for different names for barbarians are definitely not era-specific: piracy has been a thing for as long as trade has been conducted over the seas, and their land counter parts probably longer: bandits.

Depending on the conditions barbarians spawn under, barbarians could be called pirates, bandits, revolutionaries, natives (/indigenous people), terrorists, etc.

I like a lot of things you said, but piracy has really been even more of a big deal in what is Renaissance Era in Civ6. It has existed before and is still around, but piracy in that specific time was how the poor man can have a chance at a decent life at seas against the wealth-grabbing nobles who mistreat sailors to operate their treasure fleets.

And I really like the idea of having revolutionaries and natives having their own agendas. Civilization can learn from Total War games on this one.

 

[dunkleosteus]

I like a lot of things you said, but piracy has really been even more of a big deal in what is Renaissance Era in Civ6. It has existed before and is still around, but piracy in that specific time was how the poor man can have a chance at a decent life at seas against the wealth-grabbing nobles who mistreat sailors to operate their treasure fleets.

And I really like the idea of having revolutionaries and natives having their own agendas. Civilization can learn from Total War games on this one.

Thanks, but I think Renaissance piracy is over-romanticized. The first records of Piracy are 3500 years old and its mentioned often around the Mediterranean after that as well.

 

[Photi]

"Non-state Actors" --all of them for every era

 

[unpossible251]

i thought the term "barbarian" was not spanish, but in fact greek. to ancient greeks, foreigners all sounded the same. bar - bar - barrr.

i suppose that would make the greek work Barbarian more or less like "chinky-chonks".

but then, there were the Barbary corsairs, so my source may be wrong.

 

[magha77]

Barbarian term came from the Romans for people with beards. Romans shaved their beards and the term was not derogatory but their way of saying non-Roman.

 

[BlueFlamingWings]

i thought the term "barbarian" was not spanish, but in fact greek. to ancient greeks, foreigners all sounded the same. bar - bar - barrr.

i suppose that would make the greek work Barbarian more or less like "chinky-chonks".

but then, there were the Barbary corsairs, so my source may be wrong.

That sounds right, though I think Spain called the Mors barbarians too. It's a widespread thing.