Barbatos 0.33

[slowcar]

Just a quick question:
I had my capital 3 squares away, after some turns my culture expanded around it.
I never opened borders with anyone because i feared that an AI unit would just walk in there and let barbatos destroy my capital.
Would they do this? Or is there some built-in intelligence that tells the AI "no, no, bad golem, never walk there"?

Btw, is the death mana available after Barbatos is killed only? Or would a river nearby make it usable?

And a related question: Are the gargoyles that are spawned by the guardian allowed to enter cultural borders?
I saw it on turn 40 near the calabim, set it off with my scout, they did't destroy the vampires though

i love to rob graveyards near my enemies in MP and spawning 3 str8 gargoyes would be much better

 

[westamastaflash]

Decius had barbatos spawn in his capital. He died on turn 50 or so when his worker decided to build a road to the death mana there...

 

[Chip56]

And a related question: Are the gargoyles that are spawned by the guardian allowed to enter cultural borders?

yes. Thanks to them I lost at turn 8 in my first 0.33 game.

 

[vivictius]

I've had a game with Barbatos on the other side of some mts from one of my cities but within my cultural borders. Since there was a river running along side him connecting to my cities I got the death mana and just left him here to guard it.

 

[Camber]

He spawned 2 tiles from the Hippus capital in my current game, and wiped them out before turn 100. I tried to send in Hill Giants to kill him (after the Hippus were gone--I couldn't get Pact of Nilhorn in time), but lost one to a pair of Earth Elementals and had to retreat.

It would really suck to have this spawn next to my capital in an MP game. I've seen it happen next to a Clan capital and they were quite happy with him, but I never play barbarian types.

This reminds me of a request: Is there any way that you could code in the respawning of defeated civs? I really liked that feature in Civ3. I tend to play on Earth2 maps, and when a civ gets defeated I go into the map editor and give them a Settler, Worker, and 3 Warriors somewhere that isn't colonized yet (usually Australia, I try not to put them in the New World if I don't have to). But I wish I didn't have to use the map editor to have this occur!

 

[Pyr0mancer]

Yes, it's possible; see Rhye's and Fall of Civilization. However, it was done on a pre-made custom map that included all sorts of fun scripted events, for an excellent mod.

 

[Moon Hunter]

yes. Thanks to them I lost at turn 8 in my first 0.33 game.

I died on turn 3 in my first 0.33
The settler spawned near the guardian, an on his way to a great starting location, he woke up 3 gargoyles on turn 1...

So much for a quick game of FFH2

 

[Chip56]

You know whats even worse on that loss:
I got a almost perfect start (exept for the guardian pass)
lots of flood plains, resources and a tech hut which matched my plans on turn 1 after settling.

 

[Hydrahypnotizer]

The most annoying thing about barbatos (except "loose on turn 6") is the horribly annoying "There is an enemy nearby!" warning beep.

 

[SwordofStriker]

I discovered something even worse than Barbatos in the early game. Frostlings that spawn right next to your capitol on turn one. My warrior started a few tiles away and I never even had a chance to move him after they spawned. It says my game lasted a full 1 second. Frostlings shouldn't be spawning before you can even move your starting unit to your capitol.

 

[deadliver]

Whats this guardian everyone is talking about? (I am still looking for the Sailor's Dirge).

 

[Pyr0mancer]

Whats this guardian everyone is talking about? (I am still looking for the Sailor's Dirge).

It's a unique feature that spawns on Peaks, the Guardian of Pristin Pass. It spawns 3 barbarian Gargoyles the first time a unit walks near it. Barbatos at least stays where he is, so you can run away. The Guardian's gargoyles are pretty much a death sentence.

 

[Durin]

IMHO

I like to be surprise even with a destructive start like barbatos or the gargoyle.

What a pleasure if you could avoid the trap ?
If you lose ? no problem : that's life (gaming life)

I consider barbatos and the red dragon as bonus, because they are providing you with a very good defense.

What is missing : the IA must learn to avoid the nasties like us.

regards.

 

[deadliver]

Thanks Pyro, havent seen it yet.

IMHO

I like to be surprise even with a destructive start like barbatos or the gargoyle.

What a pleasure if you could avoid the trap ?
If you lose ? no problem : that's life (gaming life)

I consider barbatos and the red dragon as bonus, because they are providing you with a very good defense.

What is missing : the IA must learn to avoid the nasties like us.

regards.

I like Barbatos when playing as a barbarian player, as far as the dragon goes...barbarians spawned in his city have enchanted weapons right?

 

[dot]

I've had a game with Barbatos on the other side of some mts from one of my cities but within my cultural borders. Since there was a river running along side him connecting to my cities I got the death mana and just left him here to guard it.

You totally made me burst with laughter. Very nice!