Betrayls

[Nhoj]

I'm not understanding this. I had a millitary alliance with a country, then after the twenty year period, they cancled the alliance. No big deal. Except now all the countries are saying that I betrayed them. I don't recall doing anything of the sort. Is this a bug (it has happened in nearly every game I've played), or is there something that I'm missing?

 

[Chieftess]

Did you fight the civ you signed an allience against? Say you signed an allience with the Egyptians against the Indian. If you didn't fight the Indians, it will cause a rep hit. Can you give more detail?

 

[Anti-EUA]

Yes it's probably this, if you don't send troops to fight, they get really mad at you. when i did it they canceled the alliance, stopped the war, and made an alliance against me...

 

[Hygro]

Are you sure about that CT?

 

[Nhoj]

Actually it was I that asked for the alliance. And I did fight. I was the Chinese. The Germans declared war with me. I asked nearly everyone else for a military alliance against the Germans. A few turns into it two of my allies declared war on each other. Because both were still my allies, I didn’t want to get involved. Might this be the problem?

 

[Tireur isole]

Thats why. By not helping either of them your rep got hit, I's kind of a no win situation. You help one you betray the other, you don't help either you betray both, its sad isn't it?

 

[Quandary]

Nhoj:

A few turns into it two of my allies declared war on each other. Because both were still my allies, I didn?t want to get involved.

Wait. You said military alliance. Did you mean mutual protection pact?

If you had a MPP I can see taking a hit under those circumstances, although I'd like to hear the uninvolved and offended civ's explaination of what you could have done differently.

If you only had a military alliance against Germany, I don't see why not fighting in a different war between two in the anti-Germany alliance should hurt you.

Or was one agreement a military alliance and the other an MPP?

 

[one_man_assault]

Or was one agreement a military alliance and the other an MPP?

I dont think so I think he ment that he had an alliance with a lot of countrys but he had a MPP with 2 of his allies that ironicly declared war with each other....am I correct?

 

[Ayatollah So]

In my first Civ3 game, I asked the English to ally with me against the French. They agreed. There were a few periods of peace but Elizabeth and I kept coming back and eventually I captured the last French city. Later as I was negotiating with the English, I noticed my advisor saying "we shouldn't trust the English, they betrayed our friends the French"!

I can't absolutely rule out that the English surprise-attacked the French during some turn when I was at (a very uneasy) peace with the French. But I wouldn't bet on it. Other diplomatic functions of Civ3 don't make much sense; why should this one?