I'm aware that bhall's heaven still exist as good and holy place even though she is not so are there any angels of bhall that are still loyal to good and still dwell within her heaven? or have remain loyal to good but have abandoned her hevaen. I am also aware that it's slowly falling in to decay.
bhall's heaven
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MagisterCultuum
Great Sage
The Civilopedia indicates that Brigit is the only one of Bhall's angels who remained holy who was not slain, but Kael had previously stated that there were a lot of angels who fled to serve other gods (most went to Lugus, but there were also many who now serve Bhall and some who probably serve the other good gods too Junil). I personally prefer to think that all the angels to fought with Brigit against Bhall, but that there were others who simply abandoned both Bhall and Brigit before they fought each other during Bhall's fall. It seems these angels might not have been true to their element of passion, and so their elements and personalities would have been changed to match their new lords.
I believe that the same pedia entry says that Bhall's heaven was destroyed with that one thought of Bhall, but Kael had also stated that her heaven remains but is empty. I prefer to think that it was damaged and that portions of it fell, but a large portion of it remains intact, waiting for Brigit to ascend there and claim her mistress's godhood as her own.
I believe that the same pedia entry says that Bhall's heaven was destroyed with that one thought of Bhall, but Kael had also stated that her heaven remains but is empty. I prefer to think that it was damaged and that portions of it fell, but a large portion of it remains intact, waiting for Brigit to ascend there and claim her mistress's godhood as her own.
Humakty
Happy Goblin
Is Bhall's godhood vacant ? I've read nowhere she changed her domain from fire to another sphere. Furthemore, none of the other fallen gods have been replaced (as far as I know), which is quite logical, as they don't change their sphere, but just their alignment.
It seems to me a god needs to be killed before he can be replaced. (ie : Danalin have not been replaced by one of his angel)
It seems to me a god needs to be killed before he can be replaced. (ie : Danalin have not been replaced by one of his angel)
Her godhood isn't vacant but it's corrupted. If Brigit could become the new god of Fire (True Element = Passion?) then there would be two versions of the element. Or that's how I see it.
She is currently residing in Agares hell and he is probably her closest ally atm, so she is probably influenced by him, making Bhaal the God of Indifference.
She is currently residing in Agares hell and he is probably her closest ally atm, so she is probably influenced by him, making Bhaal the God of Indifference.
Humakty
Happy Goblin
Well, all the other evil gods are corrupted, so why no one replaced them ? I don't know why people decided Bhall could be replaced, I still think only the definitive death of a god allows for his archangels the possibility to ascend to godhood.
As stated in the story describing the fall of Bhall, a god is able to destroy his angels and archangels just by willing to, so I can't see how Brigit is supposed to overthrow her mistress.
As stated in the story describing the fall of Bhall, a god is able to destroy his angels and archangels just by willing to, so I can't see how Brigit is supposed to overthrow her mistress.
Darksaber1
Secret Emperor
Well, Bhall didn't destroy Brigit then...
And other gods have been replaced. Lugus became the god of Truth, when Esus became god of Lies; Sirona is the god of Hope, Agares while Agares is despare; and Brigit could become god of Rightius Passion, while Bhall is Heated Anger.
And other gods have been replaced. Lugus became the god of Truth, when Esus became god of Lies; Sirona is the god of Hope, Agares while Agares is despare; and Brigit could become god of Rightius Passion, while Bhall is Heated Anger.
KillerClowns
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If she gets Bhall to put one foot on Erebus, the matter is dealt with. If you could trick any god into doing so, it'd be Bhall. Unfortuantely, the gods who are experts into manipulating and tricking others (Mammon and Esus) have no reason, to the best of my knowledge, to want her dead.
Bhall's other former followers may feel otherwise, but perhaps Brigit has no intention of attempting such a mission, but rather redeeming her goddess. After all, Bhall did spare Brigit. She looks to be the most redeemable of the evil gods.
Humakty
Happy Goblin
[QUOTE/]Bhall's other former followers may feel otherwise, but perhaps Brigit has no intention of attempting such a mission, but rather redeeming her goddess. After all, Bhall did spare Brigit. She looks to be the most redeemable of the evil gods.[/QUOTE]
That would be more fitting to Brigit passion,not to abandon her intial objective after all these centuries.
I hope for Erebus Bhall will redeem, as a world without passion must be darn boring.
That would be more fitting to Brigit passion,not to abandon her intial objective after all these centuries.
I hope for Erebus Bhall will redeem, as a world without passion must be darn boring.
Tyrs
King
Triple post!
Tyrs
King
I was under the impression that Bhall didn't change from Passion to Indifference, but rather from a protective, righteous kind of passion for goodness, to a wild destructive angry passion
Tyrs
King
Double Post!
MrUnderhill
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I think he might've accidentally posted the same thing three times and edited the extra ones afterwards so as to avoid duplicates. They were all posted at the same time and I don't think there's a "delete post" button on this forum.
Giga-Gigan
Warlord
Do we have any descriptions of what Bhall's heaven looks like? I mean we have a generally good idea of each of the hells look like more or less, but aside from from a brief glimpse of the netherworld, and Ogma's rather fantastic if not amnesiac prone vault, the heavens are bit of a mystery...
Unless of course I'm missing something.
Unless of course I'm missing something.
Giga-Gigan
Warlord
*Checks*
Sigh... Not what I pictured, I always imagined Junil's heaven as a sort of Celestial Bureaucracy, with Sphener's greatest battle ever being him going through form, after form, after form, just get to organize a meeting with Junil.
On topic; Also what became of all the lesser souls that were hanging out there? Did they fall with her and become manes? Or are they just sort of scratching their heads wondering where all the fire and passion has gone?
Sigh... Not what I pictured, I always imagined Junil's heaven as a sort of Celestial Bureaucracy, with Sphener's greatest battle ever being him going through form, after form, after form, just get to organize a meeting with Junil.
On topic; Also what became of all the lesser souls that were hanging out there? Did they fall with her and become manes? Or are they just sort of scratching their heads wondering where all the fire and passion has gone?
Kael
Deity
Remember that one of the major complaints that the Order has against the Empyrean is that the Empyrean talks, and the Order acts. The Order is not constrained, they are not muddled, their laws arent compromised. There is only one perfect action, and little tolerance for anything else.
Giga-Gigan
Warlord
Bwahaha! I knew that jab at Junil would drag you out Kael! Now please describe what Bhall's heaven looked like please. It a question only you would really be able to answer.
